Indian Head Massage and Epilepsy

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Hi all,

I have a question about Indian Head Massage. I have bought a dvd "Teach yourself Indian Head Massage". I thought it would be a good/fun thing for hubby and me to practise this on each other and perhaps someone else within the family. Strictly amateurish, just for pleasure.

Yesterday evening I had a quick glance through the instructions. There was a warning to take it easy with persons who had various dis-eases, among them epilepsy. My daughter (35 yrs) has had epilepsy since she was 21. Her doctor says she'll be fine as long as she takes her medicine, sleeps well and stay off alcohol. She hasn't had any attacks in a few years now.

So my question is: in what way could this massage be harmful to her? I thought it would be a soothing and relaxing experience, something she could benefit from. I've told her about the dvd and she's very interested.

Bee
 
Hi Bee
Epilepsy is not normally a contra-indication but you have to be able to cope with a person having a seizure and the person having the treatment has to realise that no matter how small the risk they may have a seizure although unlikely and have to be comfortable with that....as this is your daughter you do not have the normal client risk but make sure you are both happy.

Hugs
T
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Hi Tigerbee,

Thanks. That was valuable info to me. I guess I'll have to go verrry easy with her. Actually, I've never been present when she's had the seizures earlier, the epilepsy appeared after she went to uni and moved to her own flat. Today she works as a teacher for children 13-16 yrs and is thereby under great stress.

The massage technique seems interesting though, so I will try and learn it. Maybe I can try it on my daughter when I feel I can handle the technique. I suppose continued distant Reiki will do for the moment. That seems to have had some positive effect on her temper (she's quite hot-tempered, not at all like her laidback mom )

Bee
 
Hi Bee

I have been teaching Indian Head Massage for 8 years and Epilepsy is a contra-indication on certain movements on the scalp. I also do a video however it is very important to point out which movements you should miss out is someone suffers from this or go more gentle.

Certain parts of the massage to the scalp is very stimulating and it is recommended when working on the scalp that these movements are not used. I recommend that the safe parts earlier in the massage can be lengthened so the client still receives a full 30 min massage.

When working on meridians on the head you are giving the whole body an MOT it is similar to reflexology the organs are linked to nerves which go to the feet but also it is the same for the head. It is always best to get proper training when learning any new massage you should not give Indian Head massage to a person who has a high fever or who is drunk and there are also other issues to be aware of so training from a professional is always advised.

You are also releasing toxins in the body so good advise is to drink plenty of water to help this process.

maybe you could look for someone in your area or if you let me know where you are I may know of someone.

I hope this has been helpful

Best Wishes

Sue
 
Hi

I have just got off the phone to Narinder Mehta who as most people here in the UK are aware is the pioneer/guru of Indian Head Massage in the UK and is highly respected, he has confirmed for me that Epilepsy is NOT a contra-indication to Indian Head Massage, he would not modify the therapy in anyway except to make the head massage slightly more gentle. (which I think i put in a PM to you BEE).

Hope that helps.
T
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Like Mystic, I have been teaching IHM for 4 years, and I always say that it is a contra indication, just to be on the safe side. I was taught myself that it is unwise to rush too much blood to the head too quickly.

We also avoid the thyroid areas in anyone who has hyper or hypo thyroidism, and so on, just as precautionary measures.

I once had someone faint half way through a session. It turned out she had low blood pressure. I always advise against the treatment for anyone on low or high BP.

Having said that, many people dont tell the whole truth about themselves, and apart from this lady, I have never yet had any real problems with the treatment or the lessons. I just vere on the side of caution though.

Love

Gillyxxxxxxxxxxx
 
Hi all, I do agree with Gilly that it is best to be cautious. I have been taught this is a contra- indication also. I think it's about what your insurance company and the examiner's body want you to be careful of and if there is even a slight chance of the condition being made worse or the treatment being the trigger of an onset of the attack then they will tell you to get medical advice and to let the Dr/client know about the risks.
 
Well it just shows how we all differ, the only really stimulating one is tapotment which is the one that would be done very gently, I have spoken to several tutors of the examinable courses and they all say ok.....

Hugs
T
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Contra- indications are relative & not absolute!

Companies & individuals producing literature, DVD's, vidoes are obliged to point out any possible contra indications or side effects, in view of the possibilty of the worst case senario & the possibility of being sued.

So long as you explain any 'known risks', of which this is a remote one ( in my opinion) & if unsure you can get them to sign something that says you have explained this to them & they are happy to try the treatment.
 
I would treat. Epilepsy, high bp (which would be lowered by the treatment) and low bp. I know that those with low bp may feel faint, but have treated plenty who have had low bp and been fine. We have a therapist at the Centre who is epileptic and I give her massage without a problem, the worst thing for her is her back strain from working on people's feet. To be honest, if we want to be taken seriously then we can't turn away every health condition.

Not only that but there are more serious health conditions and I am happy to give treatments to people with those too. Probably wouldn't have any clients othewise![&:]
 
Thanks all of you for your valuable input!

I think I understand the concept better now and I realise IHM is not to be played with. It's funny though that the dvd "sells" it from a somewhat lighter aspect with just the quickly shown disclaimer.

My interest has not decreased I will go easy with my daughter, hubby will be my test rabbit

Love and Light
Bee
 
Hi Bee
So pleased you havent been put off....enjoy the therapy it is truely lovely, any questions just let me kow.
Hugs to you
T
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Hi

I agree with Gilly, I learnt at a college and these were the guidelines I was given and I was glad I was. I do know of someone who went for an Indian Head Massage who suffered from Epilepsy and it did bring on a fit. It is always a good idea to outline the possible risks, as I am not a doctor I visited my local GP to check all the health positives and areas to be careful with (as he recommends people to me) and he agreed with the college and with all the guidelines I was given.

You can still have an Indian Head Massage if you suffer from epilepsy however there are certain areas that you either can miss out or go more gentle.

Narendra Mehta for reference in his Indian Head Massage Book on Page 144 says in his words of caution:

If you are not a trained therapist, do not give indian head massage if your partner or friend is suffering from any of the following conditions:

Osteoporosis, frailty, chronic fatigue, Epilepsy, Spondylitis or spondylosis in the neck, painful cysts or Psoriasis

These are all good recommendations for anyone not trained.

I am not a doctor so to be safe it is always best to check with your GP if you have any concerns. I always encourage anyone who has any major health concerns to check with their GP I offer my guidelines and then they can make an informed decision. They are given a medical questionairre and once signed and they are happy for you to go ahead you are covered by your Insurance.

Having said all that there are so many wonderful benefits from this massage and in the 8 years I have been practicing and teaching the feedback has been very positive.

Sue
 
I would be interested to know how many GP's even know what Indian Head Massage is! Certainly many of the one's that my business partner and I met at a recent drug company fair hadn't a clue! They don't train in complementary medicine and usually know very little about it. Agreed some do, my own GP has all therapies on offer. But seriously, if you get out there and talk to GP's - young and old - they will happily tell you that they don't know the first thing about holistic treatments.

I am not saying that everybody who watches a DVD should start treating, and in fact some therapists shouldn't as they are so poorly trained, but many are very competent and as for somebody having a fit whilst having a treatment, well maybe that would have happened anyway?

I just don't buy it.
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    FRIDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: MICHELLE & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5โ€™2โ€ & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€ with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services.
  32. NewOriental:
    FRIDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY & LULU. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  33. ASPA:
    ๐—™๐—ฅ๐—œ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: ๐—”๐—บ๐˜† & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  34. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธCindy & Lina Cindy is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Lina is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did.
  35. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Mia, Nana & Sasa. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves. She can bbbj like a queen, & is open to dfk & cfs.
  36. Moon203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Persian Turkish i today
  37. Sparkling Spa:
    SLIM, SEXY JAPANESE CHANEL AND SEX GODDESS ZOE WORKING TODAY @โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธY๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜
  38. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 7 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALAY, SANA, AMANDA, EVE, AAVI, MAY, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  39. bumika.vashi:
    VASHI NAVI MUMBAI FULL SERVICE :oops: TeleGram: @BUMIKAVASHI โ˜Ž๏ธ WhatsApp9๏ธโƒฃ9๏ธโƒฃ3๏ธโƒฃ0๏ธโƒฃ9๏ธโƒฃ1๏ธโƒฃ2๏ธโƒฃ6๏ธโƒฃ6๏ธโƒฃ9๏ธโƒฃ
  40. bumika.vashi:
    เค†เคชเค•เฅ‹ เคฌเคฟเคจเคพ เคจเคพเคŸเค• เคฏเคพ เคจเค–เคฐเฅ‡ เค•เคฐเคจเฅ‡ เคตเคพเคฒเคพ เคธเคฐเฅเคตเคฟเคธ เคšเคพเคนเฅ‡ เคคเฅ‹เคน เคฏเคพเคฆ เค•เคฐเคจเคพ. :oops:If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it.:oops: Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? ๐Ÿ’‹ Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not
  41. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Thursday๏ผšNew girl Tina๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ Vittoria- Sweet school girl with a large serving of naughtiness Angela- Slim beauty with long legs and nice proportions Julia- Exotic...
  42. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong Kong
  43. Moon203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Cuban girl (Mimi) in today
  44. Birchmount&14th:
    THURSDAY at ๐๐ˆ๐‘๐‚๐‡๐Œ๐Ž๐”๐๐“ & ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’๐ญ๐ก: JESSIE & YUKI. Birchmount Rd & 14th Ave., Markham, ON. Call or Text for details and appointment. โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฐ โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐—๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ๐—œ๐—˜ is a slim and very lovely Asian girl with massage skills of the highest degree. ๐—ฌ๐—จ๐—ž๐—œ is here today to provide an amazing professional massage. We are open 24 Hours daily. We have clean rooms and plenty of free parking.
  45. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Cici๐Ÿ˜˜A very beautiful and sexy little fangirl, she has a sexy and petite figure, Cici service is first-class, worth having and trying, she belongs to the elite๐Ÿ‘She is very friendly, very cute and exquisite little model!!๐ŸฅฐReal pictures
  46. SunriseRH:
    THURSDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: MICHELLE & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5โ€™2โ€ & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€ with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services.
  47. NewOriental:
    THURSDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY & LULU. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  48. ASPA:
    ๐—ง๐—›๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Fox, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ FOX is 26 years old with 34Cโ€™s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience.
  49. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spaโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower body scrub๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ every day 3 girlsw,New girl Vicy tiny and cute๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅvery good service body slide ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Cici so nice girl very good table shower body scrub ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Helen so good deep tissue massage ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366
  50. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sofia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
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