DFK - Why Classified as an "extra"

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Something that I have always been curious about ever since the nutty lists were making the rounds was why DFK was treated as an 'extra' in the same manner as bj's etc . As far as I know it is not illegal ( or the kissing booths at country fairs would be outlawed - lol ) so why the problem ?

There was a poll sometime back which surprisingly showed this as the most desired activity . Ignoring , for the moment , the sadness that you need to pay to get kissed and the obvious YMMV due to breath , teeth etc , I'm having a hard time seeing why this is such a big deal in terms of secrecy . There are a least a few MPA's that have taken the poll to heart and seem to want to provide this as part of the regular service .

Guess I have missed the point somewhere along the line .
 
I understand your point but DFK is a very intimate act. Frankly I love it if I really like the lady. I think that many of the MPA's don't do this - or at least with me. Glad to hear that more want to provide it.

V12
 
As I recall, it was called DFK so as not to draw attention to the ladies. They used DFK but really implied much much more.
 
If you've ever been on the "inside" at a MP, if a girl walks out of an appointment without lipstick, or if it is badly smeared, she could easily be fired, as the boss will think she is giving BJs.
 
There are a lot of SP's who don't alow DFK. It is a more initmate act than say DATY. As far as the lists go, don't trust them until you have obtained first hand experience.
 
Being new to all of this, could someone please enlighten me on these terms

YMMV
DATY
DFK
 
its funny how someone thinks that DFK is too initmate but then allows DATY. Go figure?

I do agree, however, that DFK may lead to some sort of emotional involvement, which I think the MPA wants to avoid at all costs.
 
Look in the lounge at the sticky thread

http://www.massageplanet.net.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=370
 
DFK is definately more intimate. It can confuse some clients because it gives them the idea that something more than what goes on is possible. Although I am sure most guys enjoy that experience it can lead to complications down the road. I have actually had a client who after I provided DFK, insisted that I date him. I told him I wan't interested and it led to a huge issue where he has to be banned from our club as he would never stop harassing me to go out with him. Previous encounters hadd included other things, but as soon as kissing became involved it was like he felt there was more between us.

Emma22
 
I've always found it strange how many girls in the industry ( and some hobbyists ) hold DFK to be sacred in terms of getting "intimate" ( in some cases it's likely an excuse ) ... I thought possibly it's just what they learnt from our good friend societies moral values. If that's the case it would also apply, in part, to it's highly valued status in this industry to some of us.

However, if I were to be sexually involved with someone I wasn't that attracted to, then DFK would be the thing I'd be most apprehensive about, which shows that there is some type of added physical contact above other sexual acts. But then again, as much as I hate to admit it, I'd be more inclined to want to receive than give in this type of situation. I'm not sure if this relates to this "emotional involvement" thing though ...

I really don't see how DFK can spawn emotional involvement or vice versa in the context of an MPA / client "relationship" ... Emotions are essentially separate from physical interaction, even though they can intertwine, under certain circumstances.

It's almost as though some girls need to keep something sacred, but, as markymark alluded to, licking & sucking of "private parts" as opposed to a mutual a bonding of parts which aren't so "personal" ( face lips, tongues, teeth, barbells ) as being less intimate strikes me as a little odd. That isn't to say I don't see it's higher value under certain circumstances. In essence ( to me at least) , if no emotion is attached it is purely a sensual physical act, within reasonable limits of emotion.

what was the question ?
 
Remember the movie "Pretty Woman" with Richard Gere and Julia Roberts. Julia Roberts refused to kiss Richard Gere because that was considered too intimate. Same thing with MPAs. This act is reserved for boyfriends. Sounds stupid and is the reason why it is so rare. So if you find someone who provides this service, you are truly fortunate.
bruce
 
Isn't it odd that this act is shown on TV very often especially on the reality shows such as "The Bachelor" and "Temptation Island". And on those shows, individuals are DFK'g a number of the participants. In this case, it doesn't appear that the individuals consider this act as "intimate" as some would. I too find it odd that MPA's don't mind allowing daty but say no way to DFK or even LFK. Daty is allowing a tongue bath in their most intimate body part. This must mean that women who allow daty but not DFK must find DFK is more of an emotional thing which they are unwilling to part with. Mind you, I hope to believe that MPA's known to offer DFK, do not allow this with everyone. I would hope that these MPA's would at least be somewhat attracted to the individual.
I truly enjoy DFK if I click with the MPA but I would also avoid it if I don't click with an MPA. It is a pleasurable act that I enjoy with a select few. Even though my handle seems I seek DFK in every encounter, I don't...only with the right MPA and in the right situation.
 
I have to admit - I look forward to finding DFK in a session, and so far, no such luck.

But when you think about it in real life terms for a second, it's kinda funny. You have a really good chance of hooking up with someone at a bar or dance club (non-peeler joint) and ending up DFK'ing them. But going any further, such as the coveted finish, would be waaaay outta line, not to mention not too common!

On the flipside, DFK is so hard to find with an MPA, yet there are other options that are quite readily on the table (or so I hear but again, I have yet to find)

Seems to be one of those 'things that make ya go hmmmmm....'
 
Well I would be Emma22, silly. And I figured a perspective from the MPA side would be beneficial. Was I wrong?

Emma
 
No, not from Body and Soul. I am from Kitchener.

Emma
 
Yes, Emma from Kitchener. Your perspective is most valid.
 
Well, is this the appropriate place to talk about me?? I will talk about the subject, but I think it might end up sounding bad.

Here goes:

Ever had a one night stand at the bar, greatest experience of your life, she was great, and well, you forget to call her, becuase sex, although this shouldn't be the case, is just an act. I've had one night stands, so I'm sure you have. When I kiss some one, especially DFK I want to feel there is some conection there, becasue it is no longer just an act that can be forgotten, or that I barely remembered (due to the presence of copious amounts of alcohol). When I kiss someone, they know for sure whether or not there is a conection, and maybe a lot of people in this industry are afraid or making that connection. It is easier if we can keep work and life separate. Does that help with the question??

Emma

P.S.: I intend no offence to men or women, but damn the English langueage it limits me to words.
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We love to hear what MPAs think. And unlike Mel Gibson, we do not have a clue. So to all the MPAs out there, get a massageplanet.net alias and let us know what you really think. Anonymously of course.

Personally I think that oral is more intimate than DFK, but for MPAs who receive/provide oral or attach significance to osculating, they might want to keep something back; at least symbolically. Therefore the intimacy and importance attached to DFK. Or possibly they refrain because of bad experiences with wingnuts, which spoils it for the rest of us.

Personally I prefer a bare hug to tonsil hockey. ... err I mean bear hug! Amanda Hug and Kiss right Rusty, Ref and all you other switch hitters? I wouldn't know as I am only 17% gay.
 
I love getting hugs from a clinet and I will always end the session with one. I want to remind them that I actually care about them, not just their wallet. I also try to remember something (like the name of their dog) it works for me as I don't think enough of the girls in the industry care about more than their bank account. Also I have a background in physiotherapy so I always can ask about injuries and their status, it makes them feel good that I remember them.

Emma
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  38. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair mina smile,beautiful strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience amazing body slide โค๏ธnice Vietnamese Amy open mind,everything she can do,really popular girl,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŽˆ๐Ÿ‘
  39. Withme_Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’•โฃ4386 Sheppard Avenue east ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’˜Monday, ๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹ Cici, ๐Ÿ’—tall and slim, nice personality, pretty, very good pressure point treatment and over the top finish technique..๐Ÿ’‹โฃ Natalia, โคa full body Spanish lady, curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹โ€ŠEva, ๐Ÿ’–curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish . ๐Ÿ’ž Jessica,๐Ÿ’‹ slim, and sexy body, very pretty. High energy session ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ”‹416 297-7488๐Ÿ”‹
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  41. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : CLOUDIA is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white skin
  42. lemon_tree:
    ๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’•a discreet entrance to 4155 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 201๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’–Monday, ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹ Carmen,๐Ÿ’‹ (Candy) โฃbeautiful, dark hair to shoulder, tall and slim but busty, and does very relaxing treatment with over the top finish. *Also goes by Lily. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ“ž647 348-2899๐Ÿ“ž
  43. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (11AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  44. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  45. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  46. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services... Cindy
  47. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŒนWe're waiting for you!๐ŸŒน Today (Monday), our amazing attendants are Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Lucy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky ๐Ÿ˜˜, Mia ๐Ÿค— and Sophie ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, LINDA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! LINDA is a sweet Vietnamese honey with great skills. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with
  49. Red_Pearl_Spa:
    โค๐Ÿ’‹4385 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 5๐Ÿ”บ๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ดMonday, ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’‹ Tammy, โฃfull body treatment by an amazing attendant. good overall treatment. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ โ˜Ž๏ธ 647 352-1588โ˜Ž๏ธ
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and very pleasing
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