johhny boi
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Passcard came in yesterday. Am i ready for TJ now? 
Amigomio...there's no call for the animosity, flaming, name calling, etc. in your post. What set you off? Do you feel threatened when a Gringo is knowledgeable about Mexican law?
For the record:
I speak Spanish. I have a FM3 Visa, Mexican DL, and for many years I've maintained a home in Tijuana. (Some years it's been my secondary residence and other years my only residence.)
I have spoken to more than one Mexican attorney practicing law in Tijuana. (One is a former federal prosecutor.) They all tell me, "prostitution is legal in Tijuana." They are the ones who tell me there is a difference between prostitution and actives related to prostitution (such as solicitation) that I posted about above.
Furthermore, as I stated above, it is state and local laws--not Mexican Federal Law--that governs prostitution. So what happens in other cities isn't really applicable to TJ.
If you don't believe me about prostitution being legal in Tijuana then do what I did: Shell out some money and speak to an attorney who practices criminal law in TJ.
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In Mexico the Mexican Minister of Health has classified Viagra, etc. as a Category IV medication. That means a Rx is required to purchase it, but the pharmacy does not have to maintain a record of who purchased it (unlike Category I-III medications). The practical result is that a man can purchase ED medication in TJ w/o a Rx. That's also why the TJ police have "shaken down" tourists for carrying these medications w/o a Rx.
The reason behind Category IV rules is that historically many Mexicans have been too poor to consult a physician when ill. (Even in these days of Seguros Social and Popular the law fills a need.) Many poor turn to pharmacists for medical advice--so Mexican law "winks" at having a Rx for non habituating medication.
For the record:
I speak Spanish. I have a FM3 Visa, Mexican DL, and for many years I've maintained a home in Tijuana. (Some years it's been my secondary residence and other years my only residence.)
I have spoken to more than one Mexican attorney practicing law in Tijuana. (One is a former federal prosecutor.) They all tell me, "prostitution is legal in Tijuana." They are the ones who tell me there is a difference between prostitution and actives related to prostitution (such as solicitation) that I posted about above.
Furthermore, as I stated above, it is state and local laws--not Mexican Federal Law--that governs prostitution. So what happens in other cities isn't really applicable to TJ.
If you don't believe me about prostitution being legal in Tijuana then do what I did: Shell out some money and speak to an attorney who practices criminal law in TJ.
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In Mexico the Mexican Minister of Health has classified Viagra, etc. as a Category IV medication. That means a Rx is required to purchase it, but the pharmacy does not have to maintain a record of who purchased it (unlike Category I-III medications). The practical result is that a man can purchase ED medication in TJ w/o a Rx. That's also why the TJ police have "shaken down" tourists for carrying these medications w/o a Rx.
The reason behind Category IV rules is that historically many Mexicans have been too poor to consult a physician when ill. (Even in these days of Seguros Social and Popular the law fills a need.) Many poor turn to pharmacists for medical advice--so Mexican law "winks" at having a Rx for non habituating medication.
Let me give you an example of how you Americans are used to have Laws and how loopholes leave you perplexed and helpless when these things happen:
From Fox 31
PROVIDENCE, R.I.
Rhode Island laws allow 16-year-old strippers
http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-ri-strippers-minors-072409,0,2169624.story
No one paid attention to this bit when I posted it here.
"The Providence Journal revealed the loophole in a story this week that allows minors to work as strippers as long as they are home by 11:30 p.m."
Isn't it way stupid?
You see how the US is dependent on laws when the obvious arises?
That kind of nonsense does not happen here.
If caught, if no law is written that forbids a girl to strip in a club, she is a minor and that's it.
Period.
Judges here go into the grey zone and improvise the law till a specific law is written using as a starting point ordinances or local or state laws.
It's illegal in the US, but no here.
Yes, it is stupid too, but hell, who is more stupid, a State of the US that allows 16 year old strippers (as long as they are back home by 11:30 pm) or judges that will NOT allow minors to work at clubs, even if it is not stated in the law?
From Fox 31
PROVIDENCE, R.I.
Rhode Island laws allow 16-year-old strippers
http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-ri-strippers-minors-072409,0,2169624.story
No one paid attention to this bit when I posted it here.
"The Providence Journal revealed the loophole in a story this week that allows minors to work as strippers as long as they are home by 11:30 p.m."
Isn't it way stupid?
You see how the US is dependent on laws when the obvious arises?
That kind of nonsense does not happen here.
If caught, if no law is written that forbids a girl to strip in a club, she is a minor and that's it.
Period.
Judges here go into the grey zone and improvise the law till a specific law is written using as a starting point ordinances or local or state laws.
It's illegal in the US, but no here.
Yes, it is stupid too, but hell, who is more stupid, a State of the US that allows 16 year old strippers (as long as they are back home by 11:30 pm) or judges that will NOT allow minors to work at clubs, even if it is not stated in the law?
Once again, you depend on plain, open ignorance:
"I want to see the written Mexican law that states breathing is legal"
Ok Burt "The actual act of prostitution is legal".
Wrong.
Read: The ordinace says "Activities related to drugs or prostitution"
Burt, once and for all Mexico is not your country, I know far better how the US runs more than you do, and far better how Mexico works.
Am up to date Burt: Death Panels, Medical care for immigrants, Socialist USA, Obama with Letterman... "I can see Russia from my house".
How about the other way around Burt? What do you know about Mexico?
Back to business: That phrase is so vauge, like the word ACTIVITES encompasses everything related to prostitution, not just strutting around.
It gives so much freedom to the judge to decide what not to do or do that you would be surprised.
Sorry Burt. Wrong.
Why do you think you can be picked up for carrying Cialis or Viagra? Cause it is related precisly with this "reglamento". If you are carrying Viagra or Cialis without a prescription, you are doing activies related to drugs and the judge can see it this way and fined for having them in your posession.
You still don't understand that in our simplicity, Mexican law if aplied (not allowing for corruption) is easy to understand and interpret.
You'll never get it cause you Americans want it spelled out to you in plain English, crossing the "Ts" and dotting the "Is".
That Burt, is not happening in Mexico.
By the way, only the small cities like TJ have Zonas.
The big ones like Monterrey, Guadalajara, Tampico, Veracruz... do not have them.
So if they see a hooker in the streets, she is picked up on the spot.
And I mean on the streets as in the sense that if in the big cities, if a club girl leaves the club and crosses the street to buy something at a 7-11, she can be picked up.
Streetwalkers are picked up on the street (unless the cops are on the take or paid protection by the girls).
And so on and so on.
"I want to see the written Mexican law that states breathing is legal"
Ok Burt "The actual act of prostitution is legal".
Wrong.
Read: The ordinace says "Activities related to drugs or prostitution"
Burt, once and for all Mexico is not your country, I know far better how the US runs more than you do, and far better how Mexico works.
Am up to date Burt: Death Panels, Medical care for immigrants, Socialist USA, Obama with Letterman... "I can see Russia from my house".
How about the other way around Burt? What do you know about Mexico?
Back to business: That phrase is so vauge, like the word ACTIVITES encompasses everything related to prostitution, not just strutting around.
It gives so much freedom to the judge to decide what not to do or do that you would be surprised.
Sorry Burt. Wrong.
Why do you think you can be picked up for carrying Cialis or Viagra? Cause it is related precisly with this "reglamento". If you are carrying Viagra or Cialis without a prescription, you are doing activies related to drugs and the judge can see it this way and fined for having them in your posession.
You still don't understand that in our simplicity, Mexican law if aplied (not allowing for corruption) is easy to understand and interpret.
You'll never get it cause you Americans want it spelled out to you in plain English, crossing the "Ts" and dotting the "Is".
That Burt, is not happening in Mexico.
By the way, only the small cities like TJ have Zonas.
The big ones like Monterrey, Guadalajara, Tampico, Veracruz... do not have them.
So if they see a hooker in the streets, she is picked up on the spot.
And I mean on the streets as in the sense that if in the big cities, if a club girl leaves the club and crosses the street to buy something at a 7-11, she can be picked up.
Streetwalkers are picked up on the street (unless the cops are on the take or paid protection by the girls).
And so on and so on.
Mine took about 4 weeks.
The CBP are not fining people for crossing without a passport or passcard. You won't have any problems crossing with just a driver's license. Having a copy of your birth certificate and passport/passcard with you will probably save you a lecture of needing to apply for a passport/passcard.
My estimate is that 1/3 the people crossing don't have a passport or passcard.
The CBP are not fining people for crossing without a passport or passcard. You won't have any problems crossing with just a driver's license. Having a copy of your birth certificate and passport/passcard with you will probably save you a lecture of needing to apply for a passport/passcard.
My estimate is that 1/3 the people crossing don't have a passport or passcard.
Note the website says โactivities related to prostitution.โ Not prostitution.
The actual act of prostitution is legal, but public manifestation of prostitution is illegal. For example, it is illegal for a chica to stand on the sidewalk soliciting customers. But the law is not enforced within the Zone of Tolerance. In like manner a monger cannot solicit a chica in public outside the Zone of Tolerance. These are acts related to prostitution.
Hereโs the big picture: Little old ladies, young girls, etc. are not supposed to be exposed to prostitution. Hence activities related to prostitution are illegal in public (outside a Zone of Tolerance). But prostitution is legalโif not done publicly.
I want to see the written Mexican law that states breathing is legal. My point? The law does not enumerate legal activitiesโonly illegal activities.
Also, the laws governing prostitution are local and state lawsโnot Mexican federal law. So what is legal and illegal varies from city to city and state to state. (My comments are only intended to apply to Tijuana.)
The actual act of prostitution is legal, but public manifestation of prostitution is illegal. For example, it is illegal for a chica to stand on the sidewalk soliciting customers. But the law is not enforced within the Zone of Tolerance. In like manner a monger cannot solicit a chica in public outside the Zone of Tolerance. These are acts related to prostitution.
Hereโs the big picture: Little old ladies, young girls, etc. are not supposed to be exposed to prostitution. Hence activities related to prostitution are illegal in public (outside a Zone of Tolerance). But prostitution is legalโif not done publicly.
I want to see the written Mexican law that states breathing is legal. My point? The law does not enumerate legal activitiesโonly illegal activities.
Also, the laws governing prostitution are local and state lawsโnot Mexican federal law. So what is legal and illegal varies from city to city and state to state. (My comments are only intended to apply to Tijuana.)
biswajit g
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This is the part that makes Americans look dumb to the eyes of the world.
Sorry about that guys, but it's true.
I posted a link that makes it clear that prostitution in Mexico is sanctioned as not legal, seen as a misdemeanor.
This one, again:
http://www.tijuana.gob.mx/turismo/To...glish/pag6.asp
And then someone comes along and says that the abscence of the law makes it legal.
What the hell does the ordenance in the webpage states then?
There's no abscence of law, it's right there.
And let's get this clear: maybe in the US you can do whatever you want without breaking the written law (which in many cases it's not true), but there are parts in the world, many to speak the truth, that require a specific law to make it legal and if it is not in the Book, you can not do it.
And one of these palces is Mexico.
Sorry about that guys, but it's true.
I posted a link that makes it clear that prostitution in Mexico is sanctioned as not legal, seen as a misdemeanor.
This one, again:
http://www.tijuana.gob.mx/turismo/To...glish/pag6.asp
And then someone comes along and says that the abscence of the law makes it legal.
What the hell does the ordenance in the webpage states then?
There's no abscence of law, it's right there.
And let's get this clear: maybe in the US you can do whatever you want without breaking the written law (which in many cases it's not true), but there are parts in the world, many to speak the truth, that require a specific law to make it legal and if it is not in the Book, you can not do it.
And one of these palces is Mexico.
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Its been a few years-but I got an offer at Altalita for $35 and I took the offer! it was a slightly older daytime type. I thought it was a "Introductory Rate" but it turned out to be a good session. I guess That HO was a "motivated seller"
Gmbrldx: it isn't a "tit-for-tat" thing.
Iam placing a TJ ordinance that states that things that deal with prostitution are not accepted.
They are fined.
It's written proof from the Municipio de Tijuana's Reglamento del Bando de Policูa.
As easy as that.
Sometime ago someone said that a Mexican lawyer friend of his said that prostitution was legal in Mexico and this poster was never able to produce the law.
I want to see the written Mexican Law that states that prostitution is legal in Mexico, which many of you quote and we have never seen.
Simple, just get it and place it here.
Iam placing a TJ ordinance that states that things that deal with prostitution are not accepted.
They are fined.
It's written proof from the Municipio de Tijuana's Reglamento del Bando de Policูa.
As easy as that.
Sometime ago someone said that a Mexican lawyer friend of his said that prostitution was legal in Mexico and this poster was never able to produce the law.
I want to see the written Mexican Law that states that prostitution is legal in Mexico, which many of you quote and we have never seen.
Simple, just get it and place it here.
itsme.green
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Little Man, am sorry to tell you but prostitution is not legal in Mexico.
It is tolerated, that's why la Zona is called that way, cause it's la Zona de Tolerancia.
But not legal in the sense that it is in the law books as "prostitution is legal in Mexico".
The passing of laws if to be done, is by the corresponding state, in this case Baja California, but they in place have left the Municipio de Tijuana to pass ordenances if it is accepted or not.
It is only seen as a misdemeanor, and fineable from 450 up to 1,230 peso in Tijuana, and can you can be held accountable for many things right now in the Federal level (specially human traffiking) if the authorities would like to do it, but no, cause it's tolerated.
Check out this link:
http://www.tijuana.gob.mx/turismo/TouristGuide/English/pag6.asp
It's right there under "Activities related to drugs or prostitution."
It is tolerated, that's why la Zona is called that way, cause it's la Zona de Tolerancia.
But not legal in the sense that it is in the law books as "prostitution is legal in Mexico".
The passing of laws if to be done, is by the corresponding state, in this case Baja California, but they in place have left the Municipio de Tijuana to pass ordenances if it is accepted or not.
It is only seen as a misdemeanor, and fineable from 450 up to 1,230 peso in Tijuana, and can you can be held accountable for many things right now in the Federal level (specially human traffiking) if the authorities would like to do it, but no, cause it's tolerated.
Check out this link:
http://www.tijuana.gob.mx/turismo/TouristGuide/English/pag6.asp
It's right there under "Activities related to drugs or prostitution."
LadyrootFiX
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Thankfully we have TJ. US is illegal, and MX is Legal. For a tourist you want to go where it's legal and go back home safely. In TJ, you get to see through your own eyes not pictures.
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Thanks LM,
I'll be in SD for part of the trip. I've looking at CL for some quality "companionship" research. Have a few I'm investigating. With your proclivity towards large I don't figure they will be ones you know though. I like'em tiny. Two of the ones I've been watching are Asian. Never had Asian before might just give it a go. Then if the Pass Card is in I figure to head down to TJ for some quantity mongering.
Stay Safe.
LP
I'll be in SD for part of the trip. I've looking at CL for some quality "companionship" research. Have a few I'm investigating. With your proclivity towards large I don't figure they will be ones you know though. I like'em tiny. Two of the ones I've been watching are Asian. Never had Asian before might just give it a go. Then if the Pass Card is in I figure to head down to TJ for some quantity mongering.
Stay Safe.
LP
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Phoenix Blossom Spa2 girls 5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke416-817-3366 Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub Japanese girl Nina Natural Big Boobs 38 DD Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable very provocative service, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surpriseYou are welcome to make an appoint
- wonderspa:
Wonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800best massage in vaughan,sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular long hair mina smile,beautiful strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience amazing body slide nice Vietnamese Amy open mind,everything she can do,really popular girl,must try
- Withme_Spa:
โฃ4386 Sheppard Avenue east Monday, โฃ Cici, tall and slim, nice personality, pretty, very good pressure point treatment and over the top finish technique..โฃ Natalia, โคa full body Spanish lady, curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish โEva, curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish . Jessica, slim, and sexy body, very pretty. High energy session 416 297-7488
- Jennyโs Spa:
JENNYโS SPA 5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4 ( 647-893-5196)Call or Text ( 437-888-3759)Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY GRAND OPENINGNEW GIRLS EVERYDAYEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโS SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS Limited Time Special Promotion 30 Minutes Nude Mass
- AliceSpa:
MONDAY at ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ฆ๐ฃ๐, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐ฐ๐ญ๐ฒ-๐ฎ๐ต๐ด-๐ฌ๐ด๐ต๐ด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : CLOUDIA is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white skin
- lemon_tree:
a discreet entrance to 4155 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 201โฃMonday, Carmen, (Candy) โฃbeautiful, dark hair to shoulder, tall and slim but busty, and does very relaxing treatment with over the top finish. *Also goes by Lily. โฃ647 348-2899
- FLOWER Spa โ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
PINK FS โ 3300 McNicoll Ave 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ELINA, KELLY, MIKA, MADY (11AM) View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
- FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
BLUEXADO FS โ #06-1102 Centre St 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668
CICI, AMY, MEGAN View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove - Spa in Markham:
GOLDEN FS โ 8380 Kennedy Rd 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ROXY, MY LINH,
VANESSA, 
SONIA (8PM) View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove - ForeverWarden:
Monday at๐๐๐ก๐๐ฅ๐๐ก ๐ข๐๐ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐ฐ๐ญ๐ฒ-๐ด๐ฌ๐ฌ-๐ณ๐ด๐ด๐ณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ3โ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services... Cindy
- EMSpa_schedule:
We're waiting for you! Today (Monday), our amazing attendants are Ivy , Lucy , Vicky , Mia and Sophie . Call us at (905) 479-6668 to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
- HolidaySpa:
Monday at๐๐ธ๐ต๐ฒ๐ญ๐ช๐ ๐ข๐น๐ช3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ณ-๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ณ-๐ญ๐ญ๐ต๐ต: AMY, LINDA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโt miss out on her special skills! LINDA is a sweet Vietnamese honey with great skills. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with
- Red_Pearl_Spa:
โค4385 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 5๏ธโฃMonday, Tammy, โฃfull body treatment by an amazing attendant. good overall treatment. โฃ 647 352-1588
- SugarLoveSpa:
Monday at โ๐ฆ๐จ๐๐๐ฅ ๐๐ข๐ฉ๐ ๐ฆ๐ฃ๐โ : ANA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ณ-๐ฏ๐ฒ๐ฑ-๐ฎ๐ฒ๐ด๐ด โ ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ1โ with C Cups, smooth skin and very pleasing
- Annie Spa:
ANNIE SPA 7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6 (647) 891-9688 (416) 291-8879 (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY NEW MANAGEMENTNEW GIRLS GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโs ROSTER INCLUDES: JudyOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
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