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I've been looking through the forum trying to understand the acronyms and lingo. It's almost a whole new language.

I've been primarily looking at reviews of girls in semi-legit establishments. I think I'll start there before diving into holistic places. I have a few girls on the tdl that I think would provide a low milage yet fun first experience. Although, being a repeat customer would be ideal, I'm not sure how much I'd frequent in the hobby.

I think I get the gist of the industry standard tip system. On top of the room fee, I'd start with a $40 tip and $20 for additional services. Does that sound right?

It's interesting to see different techniques offered by different girls. Soft to hard massages, teasing, Thai massage, lingham, dragon tendon, cross finish, etc. Are there other services, such as a milking table for example, available at spas/Indy?

Something else I am wondering is would it be rude to ask to flip early? I'd enjoy the massage more if the massage was half the time and the other half for fun. How should I approach this?

An hour seems like a while. Within that time, I think I can do two shots. Would this be something some girls would be okay with? Could I even skip the massage completely?

Some girls I have on the tdl are:

Nancy at Superior. I haven't seen much about her being said except that she's doesn't require any review as she's well know. This has me curious.

Nancy at Just Relax. She seems like a go to and the cross finish is intriguing.

Selena at Shangri-la. She seems to have a vast menu for semi and known for her massage.

Looking for someone with nice teasing, edging and easy on the eyes. All suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks for reading. I'm interested to see some different opinions to get a better idea of what to expect.

Ewan T
 
Welcome to the hobby, beware it’s a slippery slope and there is no coming back lol!

It sounds like you got the basics right. You can certainly cut the massage short if you want , just give hints to the girl that that’s what you want and it shouldn’t be a problem. I personally never do that unless looking for more mileage than a hi or if the massage is really bad.

The three girls on your list are a solid selection. I have tried the two Nancys and Selena is on my Tdl. Of the two I know, JR Nancy is definitely in a different league in terms of massage and hj quality in my opinion. Her cross finish is very erotic. However there is no extras beyond that, even otc touching is tricky given how she is positioned during the finish. Superior Nancy has a gorgeous pair of knockers she will encourage you to smother your face in. They are gorgeous. But her massage is soft and the hj good but nothing too memorable. If you are looking for a hj while your face is buried in some gorgeous tits, she is definitely a good choice. But personally I would choose JR Nancy as my first.

Based on what I understand you are looking for (massage, great tease & hj) I would also strongly recommend Ada at E&M. Softish but highly sensual massage, unbelievable teasing and hj. The girls keeps you edge the whole time, definitely one of the most sensual sessions out there. I reviewed her here if you are interested. She is also fairly young (25-30) and has some nice curves to her.

Whoever you go for have fun and let us know how it went!
Orchid spa some many great ladies to choose from
I am a real customer not the promoters who are telling you to go to there places
 
I go there regularly 2 hours mostly massage
Phoenix Blossom Spa 5124 Dundas Street

Visit one the best run spa’s in Etobicoke.

The have in room showers, table showers, great
massages from very talented women.

Helen operates with semi rules of engagement.

Give her a call or send text, she will respond.

Cheers!
 
Something else I am wondering is would it be rude to ask to flip early? I'd enjoy the massage more if the massage was half the time and the other half for fun. How should I approach this?

An hour seems like a while. Within that time, I think I can do two shots. Would this be something some girls would be okay with? Could I even skip the massage completely?
I would let the girl know at the start of the session when you book an hour that you would like 30 minutes of massage and 30 minutes of fun/play as face down you might be surprised how quick the time goes during the massage part with some girls

Some girls are okay with 2 shots if you come early and there is time left into the 30 minutes of fun but they may ask you for an additional tip but its entirely MPA dependent and there is no way to know for sure if they will let you or if they want an extra tip or just the standard tip until you are in the session with that specific girl but it doesn't hurt to ask and just be upfront with them after you finish the 1st shot
 
The quicker you get the lady naked, the quicker the fun part start. I often tell the lady that I would like to start by massaging her. Works great... but as @LuckyShot said, the girl would expect a little extra if the fun part last longer than usual. Definitely for MSOG.

Also less awkward if you have seen the lady before and established already a connection.
 
I would let the girl know at the start of the session when you book an hour that you would like 30 minutes of massage and 30 minutes of fun/play as face down you might be surprised how quick the time goes during the massage part with some girls

Some girls are okay with 2 shots if you come early and there is time left into the 30 minutes of fun but they may ask you for an additional tip but its entirely MPA dependent and there is no way to know for sure if they will let you or if they want an extra tip or just the standard tip until you are in the session with that specific girl but it doesn't hurt to ask and just be upfront with them after you finish the 1st shot
If you have some connection with the girl and its an hour, 2 shots can usually be accomodated at a semilegit place. Handjobs are less work than hard massage, so many will welcome that. If its 2 blowjobs or 2 fucks, she will expect more tips in most cases.
 
Orchid spa some many great ladies to choose from
I am a real customer not the promoters who are telling you to go to there places
OP is looking for semi legit. Orchid spa is a fuck shop . The rooms are small with no shower in the rooms. Your posting histories told me you're affiliated with Orchid spa and bashing Phoenix Blossom.
 
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I've been looking through the forum trying to understand the acronyms and lingo. It's almost a whole new language.

I've been primarily looking at reviews of girls in semi-legit establishments. I think I'll start there before diving into holistic places. I have a few girls on the tdl that I think would provide a low milage yet fun first experience. Although, being a repeat customer would be ideal, I'm not sure how much I'd frequent in the hobby.

I think I get the gist of the industry standard tip system. On top of the room fee, I'd start with a $40 tip and $20 for additional services. Does that sound right?

It's interesting to see different techniques offered by different girls. Soft to hard massages, teasing, Thai massage, lingham, dragon tendon, cross finish, etc. Are there other services, such as a milking table for example, available at spas/Indy?

Something else I am wondering is would it be rude to ask to flip early? I'd enjoy the massage more if the massage was half the time and the other half for fun. How should I approach this?

An hour seems like a while. Within that time, I think I can do two shots. Would this be something some girls would be okay with? Could I even skip the massage completely?

Some girls I have on the tdl are:

Nancy at Superior. I haven't seen much about her being said except that she's doesn't require any review as she's well know. This has me curious.

Nancy at Just Relax. She seems like a go to and the cross finish is intriguing.

Selena at Shangri-la. She seems to have a vast menu for semi and known for her massage.

Looking for someone with nice teasing, edging and easy on the eyes. All suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks for reading. I'm interested to see some different opinions to get a better idea of what to expect.

Ewan T
Looks like you have already done your home work well..All your choices are very good but if you are a young guy, Nancy Superior may not be for you. She is one of the nicest lady with lots of regular customers and booked solid most of the time but she's in her 60s. There are 3-4 ladies in their 55 to 65 range and they are still doing well.
You can have more fun with great massage and tease with Selena at SL and Amy at East Beaver wellness. Be warned ! They both are very addictive with great attitude and their GFE service. Both speak English well. Ada at E&M is really good but limited fun and not much English. So is Nancy at JR, no extras. .If you are in Oakville, Lucy at CFF is amazing with all kinds of skills.

Click on this banner ad, you'll get all the info of the girls at EB.

 
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Looks like you have already done your home work well..All your choices are very good but if you are a young guy, Nancy Superior may not be for you. She is one of the nicest lady but she's in her 60s.
You can have more fun with great massage with Selena at SL and Amy at East Beaver wellness. Be warned ! They both are very addictive with great attitude and their GFE service. Ada at E&M is really good but limited fun. So is Nancy at JR. .If you are in Oakville, Lucy at CFF is amazing.

What’s the fun factor for Selena? How far can I go behind the closed door? I know it is ymmv. Being a challenger will like to take her on.
 
OP is looking for semi legit. Orchid spa is a fuck shop . The rooms are small with no shower in the rooms. Your posting histories told me you're affiliated with Orchid spa and bashing Phoenix Blossom.
This guy is a promoter not a customer
Either way fo what you want I do not care
Promoters have never seen any one
They read from a sheet and list it
 
Every spa does massage or sex you need to specify what you want when you book and work out your price included tip
This is how I book always
 
This guy is a promoter not a customer
Either way fo what you want I do not care
Promoters have never seen any one
They read from a sheet and list it
Phoenix Blossom Spa
Well run, beautiful ladies, great massage, shower inside the rooms, table shower...semi rules of engagement.
Etobicoke location.
 
Every spa does massage or sex you need to specify what you want when you book and work out your price included tip
This is how I book always
Yes, along with with your 3 wives servicing you, and your 3-4 spa visits per week, coupled with your $150K spa parties.

Crawl back to your rock pile...its where you belong!
 
What’s the fun factor for Selena? How far can I go behind the closed door? I know it is ymmv. Being a challenger will like to take her on.
C'mon, you have known her for a long time and you know everything about her.

BTW.....your fav here is doing very well. One guy saw her today at 12:45 and back again at 4 pm for another hour. She's really addictive. I warned every of her new customers she's addictive and some do agree with me now.
 
I think he is looking for basic semi legit tease/hj, Orchid may have some great ladies but it’s a full-service spa…
Interesting, been there a few times for some spinner that did a short stint at SL , most I got was CBJ. Was working on more but gave up trying. Didn’t think this place was even holistic.
 
Thanks for all the responses and advice. I went to see Ada @ E&M and had a great first session. Walked in and meet another attendant who was young and shorter than Ada. She introduced me to the manager who was very welcoming and led me to my room. After my shower, Ada walked in. Easy on the eyes and looked like she's in her late 20s or early 30s. Fit petite body with an innocent looking face. Was allowed to touch during the massage and fun. She speaks a bit of English. She understood enough to have some conversation and for me to adjust parts of the session. She had a great sensual massage while giving extra attention to sore spots. Barely sufficient for my active lifestyle but still enjoyable. Next time I'll ask for a bit more strength in the massage. The teasing started right before the flip. She added some extra oil and worked her way up between the legs. It was a good start before the flip. The touching continued after I flipped as she unclipped her bra. Sensual touching for junior as she slowly sped up. She takes instructions well as she continued to stroke after the climax.

Massage: 7. It was great for meeting her for the first time. I just prefer more strength.
Physique: 7. Fit petite body with a face that's easy on the eyes.
Fun: 8. Great tease, touching and responded well to my requests.

One thing I'd like to overcome for future sessions is the language barrier. How do you guys overcome this?

Will look more into Amy @ EBW.
 
Thanks for all the responses and advice. I went to see Ada @ E&M and had a great first session. Walked in and meet another attendant who was young and shorter than Ada. She introduced me to the manager who was very welcoming and led me to my room. After my shower, Ada walked in. Easy on the eyes and looked like she's in her late 20s or early 30s. Fit petite body with an innocent looking face. Was allowed to touch during the massage and fun. She speaks a bit of English. She understood enough to have some conversation and for me to adjust parts of the session. She had a great sensual massage while giving extra attention to sore spots. Barely sufficient for my active lifestyle but still enjoyable. Next time I'll ask for a bit more strength in the massage. The teasing started right before the flip. She added some extra oil and worked her way up between the legs. It was a good start before the flip. The touching continued after I flipped as she unclipped her bra. Sensual touching for junior as she slowly sped up. She takes instructions well as she continued to stroke after the climax.

Massage: 7. It was great for meeting her for the first time. I just prefer more strength.
Physique: 7. Fit petite body with a face that's easy on the eyes.
Fun: 8. Great tease, touching and responded well to my requests.

One thing I'd like to overcome for future sessions is the language barrier. How do you guys overcome this?

Will look more into Amy @ EBW.
Learn mandarin or communicate in simple English with body gesture, I don't speak Mando so that's what I've been doing


Glad to see u have a good time at E&M
 
Thanks for all the responses and advice. I went to see Ada @ E&M and had a great first session. Walked in and meet another attendant who was young and shorter than Ada. She introduced me to the manager who was very welcoming and led me to my room. After my shower, Ada walked in. Easy on the eyes and looked like she's in her late 20s or early 30s. Fit petite body with an innocent looking face. Was allowed to touch during the massage and fun. She speaks a bit of English. She understood enough to have some conversation and for me to adjust parts of the session. She had a great sensual massage while giving extra attention to sore spots. Barely sufficient for my active lifestyle but still enjoyable. Next time I'll ask for a bit more strength in the massage. The teasing started right before the flip. She added some extra oil and worked her way up between the legs. It was a good start before the flip. The touching continued after I flipped as she unclipped her bra. Sensual touching for junior as she slowly sped up. She takes instructions well as she continued to stroke after the climax.

Massage: 7. It was great for meeting her for the first time. I just prefer more strength.
Physique: 7. Fit petite body with a face that's easy on the eyes.
Fun: 8. Great tease, touching and responded well to my requests.

One thing I'd like to overcome for future sessions is the language barrier. How do you guys overcome this?

Will look more into Amy @ EBW.
They all use Google translate. If she can speaks a little more English, she'll be pretty hard to book. She has been my regular for more than 5-6 yrs . Once she trusts you, she can be lots of fun.

Amy at EBW ? Be warned ! she's very addictive. So is new girl Naomi and Cherry there.

 
Thanks for all the responses and advice. I went to see Ada @ E&M and had a great first session. Walked in and meet another attendant who was young and shorter than Ada. She introduced me to the manager who was very welcoming and led me to my room. After my shower, Ada walked in. Easy on the eyes and looked like she's in her late 20s or early 30s. Fit petite body with an innocent looking face. Was allowed to touch during the massage and fun. She speaks a bit of English. She understood enough to have some conversation and for me to adjust parts of the session. She had a great sensual massage while giving extra attention to sore spots. Barely sufficient for my active lifestyle but still enjoyable. Next time I'll ask for a bit more strength in the massage. The teasing started right before the flip. She added some extra oil and worked her way up between the legs. It was a good start before the flip. The touching continued after I flipped as she unclipped her bra. Sensual touching for junior as she slowly sped up. She takes instructions well as she continued to stroke after the climax.

Massage: 7. It was great for meeting her for the first time. I just prefer more strength.
Physique: 7. Fit petite body with a face that's easy on the eyes.
Fun: 8. Great tease, touching and responded well to my requests.

One thing I'd like to overcome for future sessions is the language barrier. How do you guys overcome this?

Will look more into Amy @ EBW.
The translate app that comes with Apple is really good. Go into conversation mode and it translates as you speak, and recognizes what language you each speak. Your hands can be busy doing other things!
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹2 girls 🔥🔥🔥5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke☎️416-817-3366👍 Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub😘 Japanese girl Nina ❤️ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD 😘Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable😘😘😘😘 very provocative service😘😘😘, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise😍😍😍😍❤️You are welcome to make an appoint
  30. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We had two girls working today. Niko and Kiki. They are both young, pretty and cute. The massage and back walking were very good
  31. wonderspa:
    🌺Wonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800☎️best massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,💄sexy face young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular 🍎long hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,🌹very friendly Cici,open maid.new girl,amazing touch,happy the end,must try 🎈🔥give you warm comfortable time🥤❤️
  32. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: Tiffany, Vivian and Kitty will be on shift. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  33. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Wednesday June 4, 2025, our attendants will be Cici 😍, Opal 😘, Carla 🥳 and Vicky 🥰. Call us at ☎️(905) 479-6668☎️ to book!
  34. Sunrise Spa:
    😘 We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto 😘 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor 😘 Today is OLIVIA, ANGELA, LISA & KITTY 😘 416-916-7276
  35. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at 💋535 Evans Ave today 💕💕💕☎️☎️416-531-6969☎️☎️
  36. wilson holistic centre:
    💕💕Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave 💕💕☎️☎️416-840-0071❤️❤️
  37. SL Spa:
    💆‍♀💖Tuesday 💜 Ultimate destination for Asian massages🎉 Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville✨ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea — 🆕 Aliyah, Jasmine, Echo, Cindy, Coco,Cici, Doris, busty Amber, Kelly & Luna — ready to pamper you🎁🍁 Ring us 📞647-695-6354 or text us 📱647-578-8169✨ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill 💰Where Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits🙌
  38. Bencook:
    Suko have many beautiful girls working here 😍Newer lala 24,beautiful lineup Mia Nora student Hellen Big boobs jojo yumi please call 647 718 6182
  39. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹 Table shower .body scrub 😘Three girls every day 🔥🔥🔥 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke ☎️ 416-817-3366 👍 New❗️New girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty😋 open service 😜😜 Sweet girl Luna deep massage 😘😘😘😘 Hot and sexy body very provocative service 😍😍😍😍❤️ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  40. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west:💋💋 New girl Hitti very young💋💋Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask...
  41. SugarLoveSpa:
    today have tifany mia chrishtina come baby Chuyển enjoy your time with all service available have beautiful young girl 20 to 30 years old, Sugar Love spa☎️☎️ (437) 365-2688📲☎️
  42. wonderspa:
    🌺Wonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800☎️best massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,💄sexy very young girl Mimi,long legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular 🍎long hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more.. hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience.must try😍👍
  43. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at 💋535 Evans Ave today 💕💕💕☎️☎️416-531-6969☎️☎️
  44. Jenny’s Spa:
    ✅💋🔥GOOD NEWS GOOD NEWS✅💋🔥 💋Cambodian Princess Suki will return to Jenny’s Spa next Tuesday June 3rd💋 😘The famous superstar Cambodian Princess Suki from Annie Spa will be working at Jenny’s Spa in Etobicoke next Tuesday June 3rd with Tina & Jenny😘 🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️( 647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️( 437-888-3759)☎️Call Only OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY Suki😍is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Camb
  45. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at 𝗔𝗟𝗜𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟮𝟵𝟴-𝟬𝟴𝟵𝟴. 2 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (10am – 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. JESSICA (3pm-9pm) is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs
  46. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5’1” and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks 30’s open mind and young cute slime Sophia 30’s, young flirty Mia 25’ with curve body and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 bomok appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim & incredible
  49. starjey888:
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  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: CHRISTINA, MIA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIA is a young & slim 𝙎𝙋𝙄𝙉𝙉𝙀𝙍, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5’1” & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite
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