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Edit: this thread recently resurfaced but it's been over a year since I first published it and the world is a different place right now. I still believe these guidelines hold true for many semi-legits (especially the smaller less known places). However, ever since Covid surfaced, I've personally been giving a bit more than what I originally specified below (nothing crazy, usually just around $10 more). To me, the MPAs are like front line workers providing an essential service and deserve a bit more right now ๐Ÿ™‚

I've been reading posts recently where guys are paying crazy amounts for "basic" services, such as $80 tip (i.e. on top of massage fees) for tit sucking. This is not good and ends up hurting all of us because the MPAs will start having unrealistic expectations and then slowly begin to demand more and more $$$. Let's get back on track here. I've listed below what I think are fair prices for semi-legits for 1 hr massage. I don't have pricing for fs/holistic places but those are usually quite set already. Perhaps some fs guys can chime in here.

1 hr massage + hj with "basic" extras such as outside-the-clothes touching --> $60 room + $40 tip = $100
1 hr massage + hj with "moderate" extras such as tit sucking (top off), digits, kissing --> $60 room + $50 tip = $110
1 hr massage + hj with "high" extras such as being completely naked, daty, body slide --> $60 room + $60 tip = $120
1 hr massage + the works (i.e. bj, fs) --> this one is trickier and depends on how badly you want it but I wouldn't want to pay more than $150 all-in

Again, this is for semi-legits where the MPAs have more discretion on what they want to do with you so if they do bj/fs it's either because they want big tips or they actually "like" you and don't mind doing that stuff with you. Personally, if I'm doing that stuff with my regs, I don't tip anything extra (or maybe $10-20 at most) and it's never been a problem. I also might be more easy going on the massage part but that's about it. If the room fee is less, say $50 instead of $60, I still give the same all-in amounts listed above.

Anyways, curious to know from others what they think on the tip amounts above and whether they are in line with what you give. Again, I have been to many different semi-legits and have never had an MPA give me a dirty look when I give these amounts. Let's not overpay them as it ends up hurting everyone!
 
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sounds about right. But locale counts. Scarbie, those numbers are spot on. Richmond hill/Markham probably higher, you can get 20 hj and room fee. 60 all in.

If I and the MPA are tight I might do a little more but that after months of going and not everytime. Short one time, make up next time, etc

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You are a little low on tips.

If you are getting holistic type services you should tip the same amounts

If you are getting an hour session and full service, I'd say thats $100 tip.

For 30 minutes at a holistic place most charge:

Bodyslide $80.

Nude $60

Topless $40.
 
That's why I said bj/fs is a bit trickier at semi-legits and depends on how badly you want it. For me personally, if an MPA quoted me a price of $100, I would always decline. I prefer bj/fs to happen naturally with an MPA that you get to know better over time. In these cases, it's rarely about money and in fact, money is not brought up at all. Having said this, I understand where you're coming from.

For it to happen naturally, i find that seeing them outside the spa works best. Many of these girls working at semi legits love a little attention as they are not getting that at home. I've had many FS sessions outside the spa that involved no formal exchange of money at all. Usually lunch or dinner then fun. So not entirely free. Lol!
 
I've been reading posts recently where guys are paying crazy amounts for "basic" services, such as $80 tip (i.e. on top of door fees) for tit sucking. This is not good and ends up hurting all of us because the MPAs will start having unrealistic expectations and then slowly begin to demand more and more $$$. Let's get back on track here. I've listed below what I think are fair prices for semi-legits for 1 hr massage. I don't have pricing for fs/holistic places but those are usually quite set already. Perhaps some fs guys can chime in here.

1 hr massage + hj with "basic" extras such as outside-the-clothes touching --> $60 room + $40 tip = $100
1 hr massage + hj with "moderate" extras such as tit sucking (top off), digits, kissing --> $60 room + $50 tip = $110
1 hr massage + hj with "high" extras such as being completely naked, daty, body slide --> $60 room + $60 tip = $120
1 hr massage + the works (i.e. bj, fs) --> this one is trickier and depends on how badly you want to do that stuff but I wouldn't pay more than $140 all-in

Again, this is for semi-legits where the MPAs have more discretion on what they want to do with you so if they do bj/fs it's either because they want big tips or they actually "like" you and don't mind doing that stuff with you. Personally, if I'm doing that stuff with my regs, I don't tip anything extra (or maybe $10 at most) and it's never been a problem. I also might be more easy going on the massage part but that's about it. If the room fee is less, say $50 instead of $60, I still give the same all-in amounts listed above.

Anyways, curious to know from others what they think on the tip amounts above and whether they are in line with what you give. Again, I have been to many different semi-legits and have never had an MPA give me a dirty look when I give these amounts. Let's not overpay them as it ends up hurting everyone!
I agree with only the first one.
The rest are too low and there is no such thing as standard tipping at semi legit spas. It all depends on how the girl treats you and how you two click. Most of the semi legit girls know some guys tip better than some so you have nothing to worry about how much you want to tip as we all have different budget and financial situation. HJ, tits sucking and digits for $50 tips is a bit too low. it should be $60 and up. A decent looking girl at semi legit will never do body slide for less than 80 bucks tips unless she is fugly and old. If i get more than body slide such as DFK and more from a good looking girl with no attitude, I will tip more, a lot more.
 
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I agree with only the first one.
The rest are too low and there is no such thing as standard tipping at semi legit spas. It all depends on how the girl treats you and how you two click. HJ, tits sucking and digits for $50 tips is not reasonable at all. it should be $60 and up. A decent looking girl at semi legit will never do body slide for less than 80 bucks tips unless she is fugly and old. If i get more than body slide such as DFK and more from a good looking girl with no attitude, I will tip more, a lot more.
Why would you tip a lot more? Iโ€™ve had many experiences tipping โ€œstandardโ€ rates and receiving elevated services. On repeat visits the service was the same or better and the tips never changed.
 
Anyways, curious to know from others what they think on the tip amounts above and whether they are in line with what you give. Again, I have been to many different semi-legits and have never had an MPA give me a dirty look when I give these amounts. Let's not overpay them as it ends up hurting everyone!

I don't even go to spas these days.

I like paying fixed rate.

I don't like negotiating with a whore.

I don't want to hear the bitch telling me another guy paid her an extra $100 for the same thing.

When I see escorts, I only pay the agreed amount, unless I get extra service like anal with no upsell, then I probably throw in another $40 tip.

Rule of thumb, if you were a white middle class working man making $35 an hour, after tax, you probably make $24. if you give an escort $20, with no intention of revisit, you basically flush an hour worth of salary down the toilet. A trip to downtown with parking and gas probably will cost you $20, unless you're wolf of bay street, be more carefully with your money.
 
I don't even go to spas these days.

I like paying fixed rate.

I don't like negotiating with a whore.

I don't want to hear the bitch telling me another guy paid her an extra $100 for the same thing.

When I see escorts, I only pay the agreed amount, unless I get extra service like anal with no upsell, then I probably throw in another $40 tip.

Rule of thumb, if you were a white middle class working man making $35 an hour, after tax, you probably make $24. if you give an escort $20, with no intention of revisit, you basically flush an hour worth of salary down the toilet. A trip to downtown with parking and gas probably will cost you $20, unless you're wolf of bay street, be more carefully with your money.
Shut up oh boring and angry one.
 
This has exactly been my experience as well. With a few of my regs, I get these so called "elevated" services and when I try to tip them more, they won't even take it. Now, you may be saying they are doing this just to keep my business, and that may be true but I barely even see them these days. A couple I see like once in 6 months, the others maybe once every 2-3 months. And for sure they are fine with what I give because if I don't see them for a long time, they will message me and ask me to come see them.

Once I did the whole shebang at a semi with a new girl. At first, she thought I tipped $60. When she realized I gave $80, you should have seen how happy she was. She quickly came over to hug and kiss me and told me several times to come see her again.

KJ - I use my pricing guide with one of my faves (you know who) and I'm very certain she's quite happy when I visit her.

But this is my point, you and others are driving up the price unnecessarily. Of course most ladies will take the extra tip (especially if they don't know you) but all the ones I see are more than happy with what I give them. Again, this is one of the beauties of going to semis in the first place where it's YMMV. If you're a regular and paying the same thing every time, then when the ladies start doing more, it's because they want to, not because they have to.
Well said
 
Based on what "rule or criteria" is $50 not reasonable? Like I said, the ladies I see are fine with this. If they weren't, they wouldn't keep messaging me when I haven't seen them in a long time.
All these locations and all these woman are doing well. They appreciate the tips. Typically they are not greedy.
 
you have to stand firm. If they demanded ridiculous amount of to tips, you walk.
 
Hangy, we've discussed this before and I know you're a big tipper and one of these guys setting unrealistic expectations with the MPAs...

But on a $ per shot basis, you're a cheap bastard!

The ladies usually comment that procuring sogs from me is much easier than massaging.

But yes, my tip per sog at semi-legits is usually $50 per sog.

With holistic and SPโ€™s , itโ€™s usually $40 per sog all in pricing.
 
i just tell the MPA i have whatever budget i set in my pocket. Take it or leave it. it really depends on who is more desperate MPA or you.
 
I agree with only the first one.
The rest are too low and there is no such thing as standard tipping at semi legit spas. It all depends on how the girl treats you and how you two click. Most of the semi legit girls know some guys tip better than some so you have nothing to worry about how much you want to tip as we all have different budget and financial situation. HJ, tits sucking and digits for $50 tips is a bit too low. it should be $60 and up. A decent looking girl at semi legit will never do body slide for less than 80 bucks tips unless she is fugly and old. If i get more than body slide such as DFK and more from a good looking girl with no attitude, I will tip more, a lot more.
JR girl did bs and russian for 60 lol. i didn't ask for it she just offered =S
 
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    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Superstar Yoga Girl Lucy, Fun Girl Kelly๐ŸŽ, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ LUCY AND KELLY๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  33. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We had two girls working today. Bella and Kiki. They are both young, pretty and cute. The massage and back walking were very good
  34. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: ๐Ÿ’–Angela, ๐Ÿ’–Olivia, ๐Ÿ’–Lisa and ๐Ÿ’–Kitty will be on shift. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  35. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Tuesday June 3, 2025, our attendants will be Ada ๏ธ, Christina ๐Ÿ”ฅ, Cici ๐Ÿค—, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜, Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ and Connie ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  36. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Monday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Top Star Jenny, ๐Ÿ†• Elsa, Coco, Eva, Cindy, Kelly, Amber, Busty Echo, Jenny, JPN Yui & Juliet โ€” ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Hit up 647-695-6354๐Ÿค™ or text to ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169 โœจ160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, Richmond Hill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  37. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  38. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair mina smile,beautiful strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience amazing body slide โค๏ธnice Vietnamese Amy open mind,everything she can do,really popular girl,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŽˆ๐Ÿ‘
  40. Withme_Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’•โฃ4386 Sheppard Avenue east ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’˜Monday, ๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹ Cici, ๐Ÿ’—tall and slim, nice personality, pretty, very good pressure point treatment and over the top finish technique..๐Ÿ’‹โฃ Natalia, โคa full body Spanish lady, curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹โ€ŠEva, ๐Ÿ’–curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish . ๐Ÿ’ž Jessica,๐Ÿ’‹ slim, and sexy body, very pretty. High energy session ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ”‹416 297-7488๐Ÿ”‹
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  42. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : CLOUDIA is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white skin
  43. lemon_tree:
    ๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’•a discreet entrance to 4155 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 201๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’–Monday, ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹ Carmen,๐Ÿ’‹ (Candy) โฃbeautiful, dark hair to shoulder, tall and slim but busty, and does very relaxing treatment with over the top finish. *Also goes by Lily. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ“ž647 348-2899๐Ÿ“ž
  44. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (11AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  45. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  46. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services... Cindy
  48. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŒนWe're waiting for you!๐ŸŒน Today (Monday), our amazing attendants are Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Lucy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky ๐Ÿ˜˜, Mia ๐Ÿค— and Sophie ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  49. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, LINDA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! LINDA is a sweet Vietnamese honey with great skills. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with
  50. Red_Pearl_Spa:
    โค๐Ÿ’‹4385 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 5๐Ÿ”บ๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ดMonday, ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’‹ Tammy, โฃfull body treatment by an amazing attendant. good overall treatment. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ โ˜Ž๏ธ 647 352-1588โ˜Ž๏ธ
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