16th Ave review and door fees

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Dropped by 16th Ave recently and had another session with Eva. I have reviewed her before, except either I cannot hear or whatever but back then I called her Ava. Whatever. Like it matters.

Anyway, I was pretty happy with her last time so thought to give it a go again.

She asks for all of my pay for about 13 and a half hours at my minimum wage job up front. (You do the math.) This is for a full body massage. I agree on the hopes that things will work out.

She gives a decent but not great massage. Not dressed sexy, just street clothes. The thing that makes her service memorable is that she actually encourages wandering hands during the lead up time. Very cool, but far less so in street clothes.

She gets up on the table and gives a very nice teasing rub down, but all still in the scratchy jeans and t-shirt.

She asks if I am in the mood for tipping. I say sure, I will work another five and a half hours just to pay her for about 2 minutes work. She removes the t-shirt and we get to jackhammer time and I am done.

So, in all, I now give Eva a thumbs down. She seems jaded and has lost her desire to thrill and please. She still is probably better than average, but for my weeks pay for her half hour service, I want something special.

As for the high door fee, it seems this is the new trend, charge up front for basic full service, then get extras from there. I am fine with this as long as the overall performance is there.

Back to the hunt...
 
Hello Honey

I am very sorry to hear that.

Let you in on alittle thing about how it works at 16th Ave.

First bylaw does not allow us to wear cloths that are to sexy. If we wear a skrit it must be one that is just above the knees, the shrit has to reveal nothing in other words no peeking at the girls. If we wear jeans we can wear a shrit that is alittle revealing with alittle peek at the girls.

Another reson she is more then likely dressing in street cloths is because the cloths she may have are not up to bylaw code. Maybe it is way to sexy.

As for the door fee you were givin that because it includes the door fee and the min end of the X.

Door fee is
$35.00 1/2
$50.00 3/4
$70.00 hr
You can add the min X onto that and that is more then likely what she told you it was.

As for asking for what ever eles she asked for I guess it ment that the min was not what she thought you wanted.

As for the rest I have nothing to say. I just thought it would be nice to let everyone know how it really works.

Teri
 
i went to 16th as a first timer and got in the door, i got quoted for 95 bucks. Left, called and asked what the rates were and she said 35 for half and i asked why i was quoted for 95 and she said that 35 was only for a back massage, a fully body goes for 95, so im assuming you have to pay extra op top of the full body.
 
As long as the full body massage includes a hand job.

$35 for the back only?
$95 for the back and front but with no handjob?
Or was it $95 for the back and front and then $40 more for a handjob?

Is that a safe assumption of what to expect.


Because if that it the case I can't see any business from here.
 
in my experience i didnot go for it because i assumed it was only a massage without a ggauranteed hj, i dont wanna pay that much not being assured, if it was included i would be all for it.. but whos to say that the lady could just pick and choose accordingly to who she wants to service.
 
Yep, Teri, we're for real. We're tired of getting or at least feeling like we're getting ripped off by being promised one thing and something else delivered. The only way you know for sure what you're getting into is to ask questions and then to share the info.
 
In Vancouver there are all inclusive massage parlours:

Great Pharaoh

So everyone knows the deal. Would this fly in Calgary? Years ago, we would negotiate a rate before even getting on the table, which included the door fee. Now, everything seems to be extra, and tacked on after agreeing to something, which leaves a really bad taste in the client's mouth. I mean, we just agreed on a price, what do you mean it didn't include a massage ?
 
Teri,
LOL... my 2 cents worth... some massageplanet members will chew you up and spit you out if you contradict them or are not 100% perfect in their eyes. They'll also cross the street if it means saving $5. But at the end of the day there are some really nice guys here on massageplanet that will go to bat for you once they know you. You gotta roll with the punches and stand up for yourself and not let it get to you. The opinions (and they are just opinions) here represent only a small fraction of your clients.
 
I think that you're a being a bit harsh. I know it is a two way street, but there are a number of businesses and independants, who do upsell you once you have already paid assuming that you are getting certain services. It would be nice if everyone was just upfront and say for $XX you will receive ...... Simple as that. When it is that you are spend your hard earned money, you want to know that you are getting what you bargained for. Too many times it happens, that is why a few pooners are a bit more sensitive to the subject when it is brought up.

No one is suggesting that everyone is a con artist, but I can guarantee you that every client has experienced it just as every MP/SP has been ripped off by a client as well. Just be honest and direct in what they are paying for, plain and simple. It's not rocket science. If they don't like the deal, they move on. This way there will not be bad reviews as someone feels they got ripped off as you didn't communicate what they are paying for.
 
Hello All

Ok Ok I understand and sorry if I upset anyone. And sorry for making a comment on the subject.

Teri
 
Your first comment was extremely helpful. But, like all people who've been to a studio a few times, the experiences we pooners get are not consistent and the pricing system, (I blame the City of Calgary regs and LE) can be confusing and difficult to understand. So we all get pretty frustrated. So, I'm not sorry you made a comment on the subject although I think your second comment/observation was a result of the frustration that people on both sides of the table have with getting clear info and having to do the "dance" around pricing for services.

We don't get the studio girl perspective here very often and it is a good one to have.

Lance
 
I would actually like to have more of her type of post.....like what is the best way to get the best services at a MP?

We would all like to feel comfortable right off the bat and not have to beat around the bush. What is the best way to do that? What would the girls prefer we do to handle ourselves better?

I was thinking of this a few times.....should we have a section of this site that the providers can ask us questions or opinions or is that just the general section?
 
The $95 gives you a guaranteed happy ending. I am nearly 100% sure that $95 gives you a hj but with her clothes all on. For my $40 tip, it was topless.

This is standard Calgary rates. I try not to skimp on 5 or 10 bucks in the hopes that it pays off with a good experience. Usually I am just hoping, but sometimes it does pay off. I did see Teri a while back, and she was good VFM at these rates.
 
...licated in Calgary. No need to go to Van. Edmonton is closer and a lot easier to get what ya want. I never pay door fee up front. Just talk with girl agree on price for services requested. Usually pay total at end of session Done, simple. Also no street clothes here? Just sexy outfits and lingiere.
 
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    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white cream skin, pretty face, can bbbj cim dfk 69 cof sf2, available all services, excellent treatment. KITTY is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business.
  35. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (2PM), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (9PM), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  36. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH (2AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  37. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (12PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (2PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  38. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  39. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: :wonderspa: โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful young Jessica sexy body,deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily Q,friendly,amazing massage,happy the end,really popular,must tryโค๏ธ
  40. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  41. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธCindy๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธNadia๐ŸŒธAnna Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  42. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKelly๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  45. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile.
  46. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Thursday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ, Vicky ๐Ÿฅณ, Sophie ๐Ÿค— and Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  47. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Top notch wellness: Ella , elena, Angela, Michelle, gabby , and Vanna. Call us now to make your appointment. 437-522-9961
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Taiwanese Victoria slime 26โ€™s open mind and young flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open min, young popular kitty 26โ€™s with curve body and pretty Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls working today. Judy and Kiki. They are young and beautiful, cute and sexy. Deep tissue massage and relaxation massage are both great. Back walking is very comfortable. They have sweet smiles and work seriously. If you are tired from work, come and make an appointment!๐Ÿค—
  50. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅOur famous sexy superstar Suki is working today Thursday May 29th with busty 36DD young girl Bobo, Sexy New Petite Japanese Cutie Mico and Sweet Sensual Busty Coco๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Call Annie Spa to book appointments ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐ŸฉทAnnie Spa๐Ÿฉท 1001 Sandhurst Circle Unit #7 โ˜Ž๏ธ647-891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ416-291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ
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