back pain after op

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i had suffered severe back pain since may 2010 , had prolapsed discs , mri scan was dec 2010 , seen surgeon on may 2011 and had op on june 2011 , first few days after op i felt fine then bang pain was back again , ive been to doctors numerous times then had physio which lasted 3 weeks , the physio decided to stop incase he was aggravating injury futher , now is feb 2012 and had a 2nd mri scan , at the moment can hardly do anything , spend most of the time lying on the floor as pain is unbearable , im on 19 tablets aday for the pain , i must have been one of the unlucky ones after surgery , im on employment support allowance and awaiting tribunial for disabilty which is later this month ,
sometimes i dont know what to do or where to look and take every day as it comes , just cant see any light at the end of the tunnel , its hard seeing my 3 year old daughter grow up and i cant do nothing with her
anybody else have had this problem after surgery would like to know
 
sorry to hear how much pain your in, thats not good at all. Could an oesteopath do anything. I have a few great books one is just called back pain and gives great insight into ur back and how things work, causes treatments and all sorts. Thats no way to live cant u go see seone else who might be able to shed some light on it.

Its so hard but try and keep your chin up because I geniunely believe that trying to keep positive else u will almost make your pain worse.

I was on so many drugs but unfortunately nothing touched me. What about looking into alternative therapy??? Im sure u have but do loads of research.

Dont forget your not alone when it comes to suffering with back pain. Try keep smiling x
 
thanks for the reply , its good to see people care about each other , , ive tried different options ie physio , chiropractor etc to no avail , just awaiting results from hospital cant wait , suffering alot of headaches recently from pain from back sometimes lasting several hours , so some days dont get any easier , just taking 1 day at a time , its hard financially especially being of work for over 18 months just getting esa , job centres dont help sometimes as put in group ggetting back to work , thats such a laugh especially when can hardly walk , couple of weeks till my tribunial for disabilty so will reply the outcome , joib centres etc just try and fob you off, looking to hear from other people who have had a load of issues
thx
 
Sounds like dire straits Scotsman29. I'm sorry to hear your pain and know what its like with young kids. I haven't endured the duration of your pain - it seems to be a common factor with back issues.

If its any help looking out side the box so to speak i'd say its a fusion your after. The discs are clearly leaking further and the only solution is to remove that factor. I'm looking at a discectomy next Friday. My first by the way and its been a torturous decision to go ahead with. Thanks to the GP, family and kind folk on here i've made my decision. But it was pointed out to me that similar to injections its also isn't a fail safe cure for prolapsed /herniated or the myth "slipped disc"

It was described to me as a bottle having been knocked over. The cap is lost and the surgeon cleans up the mess and puts the bottle back on the table. There's no guarantee the bottle won't get knocked over again and i should live life with this in mind afterwards.

No one should have to endure the pain your under and 19 tablets a day can't be good for you. Its fight or flight. I used to live by that rule years ago after a serious incident early on. I always trusted my gut feeling and fought. I guess once theres kids involved it makes these decisions even more of a serious decision. Thats why i've struggled with a discectomy. I hope you find resolve i really do. No one knows the level of pain and constant head stress it causes until their faced with it themselves.
 
19 tablets? There is something seriously wrong there, have you tried patches? What tablets are you on? Have they reassessed your med needs rather than just upping and adding to them? Have you been to a pain clinic that can look at the total picture?

Before any op you have to look at the cause too, it's not a bottle, leaking or otherwise and there is no cap, depending on what caused the problem in the first place, that is what result you will get.
 
Sorry maybe my wording isn't the best. Its my understanding that a ruptured / herniated disc is irreversible. A discectomy trims the excess and leaves the disc in its original state before surgery (Herniated) and clears only the space between vertebrae and nerve. They don't completely drain the disc in the same process so to a certain extent it is an open bottle (with less viscosity than water - fair point) or donut or what ever representation people wish to term it... hence why some people end up having to have repeated surgeries to do the same process or opt for a full fusion. And in some cases the fluid alone leaking onto the nerve after surgery is enough to cause pain after the initial offending disc fragment has been removed.

I 100% completely agree its a warning that posture or life style is an issue and should be corrected. This is probably the most important point in the entire scenario and need s to be address immediately.

But i'd imagine /hope the original poster is fully aware of that by now and long past that stage. The operation is never assumed to be the "fix" it's purely to relieve pain caused by the rupture. And gives you the chance to build up your core muscles and get your body correcting itself.

I totally agree with the fact that 19 tablets a day isn't good. In the first week of my experience i was prescribed 15 tablets a day which kept me static and very much sedated.

That can't be good for long term treatment..
 
Unfortunately you are not alone. With regard to DLA I went to an advice point (bit like citizens advice) to help me fill forms in, was advised to by my mum who is disabled. When they filled in forms they did it on my worst day, not an average one. Initially I was only offered lower rate carers but as I am now more or less housebound and unable to do anything but basic personal care I appealed. I now receive higher mobility and lower carers. I am now going to ask for my carers rate to be reviewed as only been so severely disabled since fusion operation last April. The advice point told me it is normal to be refused first time but to persevere, so don't give up.

As for dealing with your pain, I have learnt to take each day at a time. Today I am bed bound and guzzling morphine but tomorrow I might be able to lay downstairs and have a friend visit. Staying positive is the key, I always try to dress nice and do my hair, for a while I couldn't be bothered but feel better for making an effort.

As for further surgery etc, fusion surgery hasn't worked for me, although consultant still considering whether to open me up again, but does work for others. I personally know of two people who have made a full recovery and one who is still in mild pain. Would I do it again knowing what I do now, yes I would. Unless someone has been in this situation with constant pain and a feeling of life passing you by and unfortunately having to be cared for by others they can't judge. I would have done anything!!

Keep positive and try and get friendly with consultants secretary it helps when chasing things up and I should know I was one for seven years before all this.
 
hi everyone..

i did not have op yet.. and i realy do not know if anything lke that will happened with me...

anyway i had accident at work where i been 7 months pregnent at that time.
since then i am having so much pain in my back this was in sept 2010..
i am taking so many painkillers every single day. can not walk for long and can not do muvh at home. i have 2 kids one 1 year old and one nearly 4 and feeling realy bad as can not spend as much time with them as i want,
i been gpoing for physio...for abt 2 months then had back classes then acupuncture,,,
and finalyy been sent or mri scan which show i have prolapsy disc ( 2 prolapsy disc)
now waitting to see a doctor in hospital and im realy scared as i dont know what he is going to say... if i need op or not?


what u thinking guys??
i fell twice as i stop feeling my leg and i waslucky i didnt have any of my kids on my arms,,.,,,
feeeling sooo bad,,,, and so scared,,,
 
Hi Sandra

Please don't panic. Although I am one of those who surgery hasn't worked for, think how many others it has. You wouldn't look on here if you were doing.fine, so you only get to see a very biased view on here. I have two friends who have had microdiscectomies and fusions and they are absolutely fine. Also the consultant has other things to try before surgery, for example an epidural. Not the same as when pregnant as your legs still work, but numbs the pain/nerves. Sometimes these can work so well you will never go on to need more treatment.

Make sure you take a list of things you want answers to when you see the consultant and remember surgery is the last option not the first.

If you have any more questions let me know, take care Wend x
 
I just bk from the hospital he said the results r not good at All and coz i been in pain for more then 18 months now he decided to send me for surgery ... Aww itd scaring me so much... Im worried something night go wrong ... But is ur pain after surgery still strong??? Or is a bity Better?? Anything Ela can theydo for u? Or u just gonna be in pain ... ??
 
Sandra I am sorry to hear you have to have surgery. Please remember only a tiny percentage of surgeries don't work. My best advice to you would be after surgery make sure you don't rush things if you are feeling better. The consultant will put a special pain killer in your back during surgery which can last up to two weeks which is why so many of us overdo things because the pain is hidden.

I know people who have been helped by surgery so even though mine was unsuccessful I wouldn't panic. On this site though there is another procedure being talked about called MISS I think done by a Mr Martin knight privately I think, it might be worth investigating as he does things differently. If you can't find it on here let me know and I will find it for you and send it on.

Take care, feel free to ask any other questions Wend x
 
Don't worry sandra. Think of the long game here. The longer the nerve is compressed the more the damage. The sooner you get it sorted the better. It may take a while to ease / settle down after op as the nerve has to recover. Give it time and you'll be fine.

Im 2wks post op for discetomy. Some days are better than others.But every day is improvement. All nerve pain is now gone. Slight twinges - very minor. I have a dull ache in the legs above knee's. The disc themselves take a lot of time to heal. Its a long game. Stay positive, don't be afraid.

Best of luck! Stay positive.
 
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    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธBrandy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  34. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Tuesday ๐Ÿ’œ Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†• Aliyah, Lucy, Cindy, Yui, new Jojo, Coco, Cici, busty Amber, Kelly & Jasmine โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awai
  35. SpringGreen.:
    Apple off your weeked with a bang๏ผ Judy is at spring green in downtown toronto Tuesday from 9am-9pm with apple and coco. apple is a very beautiful andcaring young lady๏ผkitty is super hot.๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹647-891-0699 ask and text questions thanks๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  36. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  37. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (2AM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  38. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  39. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ASHA, MALIYA, MONIKA, ANGEL, MIMI, PREETI, ANGELINA, DIYA, PAYAL PEARL, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  40. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (1PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  42. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, โ™ฅ๏ธRICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Yoga Lucy, Killer Kelly, Adorable Eva, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญLUCY AND KELLY๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  43. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธAmberCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  44. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. KITTY (1pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new
  45. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience,relief your pain,amazing ending๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนmust try
  46. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  47. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim & incredible
  48. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, JENNY, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty.
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty new Eva 30โ€™s with curve body open mind and young flirty Mia 25โ€™s with curly body , young sweet Sophia with slime body and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
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