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As the philosopher J cole stated "don't save her. She don't want to be saved" tells us a lot.
 
"I couldn't do it, she could have been my daughter standing there. Just felt incredibly sorry all of a sudden"

Not sure I understand where you are coming from and I have to ask ~ Is the upsetting factor she could have been your daughter?

You must know there are many men on here in their 60s, 70s and beyond that likely have daughters in their late 30s, 40s and 50s.
Is 30s or 40s acceptable for you? What is the cutoff? Also, every girl/woman you've had sexual pleasure with for money is in fact somebody's daughter.

Reality is 20 something females are designed to make your cock hard and your brain mush so you will inject them with semen and propagate the species - that, my friend, is the prime directive.

Don't be so hard (no pun intended) on yourself - you are helping her financially and she is providing you with pleasure without the expense of child rearing! If you feel she was acting out of desperation or is being manipulated into providing sexual services, well, that is a whole different story!

I wish you the best in whatever you decide for your future habits but I don't think you should consider a sex workers age as long as they are in compliance with legally sanctioned norms!
100 percent. he has got it....
 
Iโ€™m generally pretty happy with things as they stand. I donโ€™t need to see anyone and oftentimes I just donโ€™t feel like visiting anyone and I donโ€™t. Last I checked our money doesnโ€™t expireโ€ฆ yet. Whether Iโ€™m in the mood for a good massage or something more, I just do it and seldom have any regrets.
No regrets, only way to navigate thos industry my opinion
 
I just hope it was not the same young girl I talked her out of this business about 2 months ago. She's about 5' tall around 95 lbs with glasses on. I told her this business is like a trap, once you got in, very hard to get out cuz money is so easy and won't be able to work regular jobs any more. I told her to think it over seriously before she comes back to work the following Monday. She came over for interview Saturday afternoon, tried out 2 customers and made 350. She sent me a message Sunday night saying she couldn't do this job and quit. I was so happy for her after that. She told me she only wanted to do massage and no happy ending. So I doubt that it was her. She was a 3 rd yr university student .

Post #3757 East Beaver thread.
From a man that has thrown many young girls to the wolves, you should be ashamed of yourself.. creep is about right
 
Thankfully, I don't like seeing young MPAs or SWs so I don't have to feel that kind of guilt. Maybe its because I'm also young (relative to other hobbyists) and it would be too close to my civilian life. Also the older ladies have been in the game for a while and I think they have to reconciled most of their demons and have their coping mechanisms in place.

Unfortunately, it can do exactly the same for our lady friends.

I was talking to a boss years ago about one of her most popular attendants and she told me she had quit and moved on from the industry because she wanted to focus on finding a guy who was looking for a real commitment and realized a quality one wouldn't be with any of us pervs. She obviously was also looking to bury her skeletons and move on. She did actually quit...for a year or two. Now she's been back at it for a few years.
It was a little shocking to me find that there are some MPAs, especially the asian ones, are either open to or actively searching for a potential man to settle with through their clients. I had at least 5 regulars would see (who i don't see anymore) I and every time we chat, the idea of her marrying me comes up 3-4 times per conversation. At the start I assumed it was just the regular greasing of the wheel, flirting to get more tips. Maybe some of it was but the fact that it kept happening with MPAs I would regularly see, made me think they were serious.
There was one I saw for like a year for strictly massage, no HE or anything and she would keep fantasizing about me and her getting married and going shopping
 
There are many older providers who are truly amazing due to experience. Those women are typically much more at peace with their chosen profession and it shows in the vibes. In that instance you don't need to worry about anyone being coerced or exploited... it's a win / win scenario for both parties.

Experimenting with new girls has become more expensive and hit and miss than ever, in addition to the depressing situation the OP found himself in. There's something to be said for sticking with a handful of tried and true fave veteran girls, rather than conducting an endless and futile search for the perfect woman.
 
There are many older providers who are truly amazing due to experience. Those women are typically much more at peace with their chosen profession and it shows in the vibes. In that instance you don't need to worry about anyone being coerced or exploited... it's a win / win scenario for both parties.

Experimenting with new girls has become more expensive and hit and miss than ever, in addition to the depressing situation the OP found himself in. There's something to be said for sticking with a handful of tried and true fave veteran girls, rather than conducting an endless and futile search for the perfect woman

RIGHT ON. I am older now but have always preferred the well matured providers and am more comfortable repeating with known quantities.. Better service, more reliable , no pimps, no periods, more affordable , far fewer life issues and they are often very comfortable with their occupation. Furthermore they are happy to see me and are appreciative of my frequent repeats. Seeing as I suffer from Yellow Fever it really helps that Asian ladies age well and could often pass for 10-15 years younger than they are well into there 50's and more.
 
Thankfully, I don't like seeing young MPAs or SWs so I don't have to feel that kind of guilt. Maybe its because I'm also young (relative to other hobbyists) and it would be too close to my civilian life. Also the older ladies have been in the game for a while and I think they have to reconciled most of their demons and have their coping mechanisms in place.


It was a little shocking to me find that there are some MPAs, especially the asian ones, are either open to or actively searching for a potential man to settle with through their clients. I had at least 5 regulars would see (who i don't see anymore) I and every time we chat, the idea of her marrying me comes up 3-4 times per conversation. At the start I assumed it was just the regular greasing of the wheel, flirting to get more tips. Maybe some of it was but the fact that it kept happening with MPAs I would regularly see, made me think they were serious.
There was one I saw for like a year for strictly massage, no HE or anything and she would keep fantasizing about me and her getting married and going shopping
There was a Semi girl I used to see a number of years ago. Over time things went further and further to the point where we'd do CFS. Then after a few sessions of that she wanted BB.

No problem, I can control. But then I'd be ready to pull out and she'd be like "no I want inside".

I was like wtf no way I know where this is going. It creeped me out and I didn't see her again after that. Kind of feel bad about the situation.
 
There are many older providers who are truly amazing due to experience. Those women are typically much more at peace with their chosen profession and it shows in the vibes. In that instance you don't need to worry about anyone being coerced or exploited... it's a win / win scenario for both parties.

Experimenting with new girls has become more expensive and hit and miss than ever, in addition to the depressing situation the OP found himself in. There's something to be said for sticking with a handful of tried and true fave veteran girls, rather than conducting an endless and futile search for the perfect woman.ใ…ใ„ท๊ต

Agree with this 100%. I have been doing this (intermittently) long enough to even see how the young one's who stay in the business settle into it really nicely and the vibe improves remarkably. Had an experience with a provider I had literally last seen 6 or 7 years prior. The service then was very meh. Now -- awesome. Our chat during the time explained why.
 
. Seeing as I suffer from Yellow Fever it really helps that Asian ladies age well and could often pass for 10-15 years younger than they are well into there 50's and more.
Shout out to this brother! I am the same. So bad is the fever that I have no interest in non asian. Some of these ladies pushing 50 still have absolutely rocking bodies!
 
Shout out to this brother! I am the same. So bad is the fever that I have no interest in non asian. Some of these ladies pushing 50 still have absolutely rocking bodies!
Haha same here too. My interest is purely in Asian ladies. I don't know how they do it, and how the skin on their bodies doesn't seem to age (face sometimes shows it, but who really cares). They may lose or gain a bit of weight over time but they don't seem to suffer from stretch marks or cellulite. So many 40+ year olds have the bodies of 25 year olds. Hats off to them.
 
I have just spent the last 30 minutes reading this thread. It's good to see the topics like this can be discussed and for the most part it can be a civil discussion.
I too have also taken a significant break and while being away have surprisingly not miss this hobby as much as I thought I would. That's not to say that I'll never come back cuz as you can still see I do keep tabs on this forum to stay informed. But as of right now I do have one foot out the door.
 
interesting discussion. Obviously, a lot of us have had or having this experience. Couple more thoughts....a few people here have mentioned age, and I have to acknowledged that's a big part of it for me. If I was still in the throes of the kind of lust that possessed me in younger days...I doubt I'd have the will to resist. Also, I didn't mean to suggest that I can tell when a woman is "unhappy" with her line of work. Like everything else, these things exist in degrees. I meant that I certainly would not knowingly stay with a woman who was feeling revulsion or desperation. Morality is tricky, and I don't mean to impose my interpretations on anyone else, but for me there is a world of difference between a woman who is taken advantage of because she wants to feed her kids and one claiming abuse because a Hollywood Producer wouldn't hire her for a 15 million payday unless she sucked him off.
 
interesting discussion. Obviously, a lot of us have had or having this experience. Couple more thoughts....a few people here have mentioned age, and I have to acknowledged that's a big part of it for me. If I was still in the throes of the kind of lust that possessed me in younger days...I doubt I'd have the will to resist. Also, I didn't mean to suggest that I can tell when a woman is "unhappy" with her line of work. Like everything else, these things exist in degrees. I meant that I certainly would not knowingly stay with a woman who was feeling revulsion or desperation. Morality is tricky, and I don't mean to impose my interpretations on anyone else, but for me there is a world of difference between a woman who is taken advantage of because she wants to feed her kids and one claiming abuse because a Hollywood Producer wouldn't hire her for a 15 million payday unless she sucked him off.
I agree there is a whole range of unhappiness in a job. Very very few people who are working in any field are going to say they enjoy 100% of their job. I always say it comes down to a percentage. If someone doesn't like 60% of their job I'd suggest they find something else they'd be happier with that has a lower percentage of dislikes.

Who doesn't have some degree of bullshit to deal with? Especially in an industry dealing with the public. Most of the public are idiots. A lot of ladies deal with a fair number of douchebags. We've seen clear examples of doucebaggery even just on here. So just because a girl seems to appear unhappy, it could just be because she's having a shitty day because of the people she dealt with just before you, not necessarily because she hates the industry and wants out, or is being forced into it.

I like to think, and I truly believe, most guys on here have some kind of code and conduct themselves like gentlemen. But there's always going to be a percentage of douchebags, can't change that unfortunately.

I might not agree with what a provider does with her money, but I don't think that's really my business. So if a girl is unhappy with her outcome from the industry, then that's on her. If they want Mercedes and Gucci bags it's their life. Some seem to be doing just fine though. I just had a SP who said she invests plenty in the stock market and is saving for a house. She's on her way home to see her family for a while. Hardly the life of a slave in my opinion. She can probably buy 100 Apple shares soon if I keep seeing her. She is there by choice and is free to leave... that's all that matters to me. There's really not much left to interpretation in most cases.

You have an impressive hobbyist resume. One of the most impressive resumes on here at least to me. There's shit you've done that are on my Not Likely to Ever Happen but Wish They Would Bucket List, specifically I'm referring to Far East escapades. Do you think that there are things you ran into overseas that are more likely exploitation? I guess I'm talking about bar girls for example. My understanding was that generally a lot were just like the ladies here, putting food on the table, and if they're smart planning for the future. Some not too though. They might have not made great choices in their past, and that may be the reason why they're in the industry, but again no one is forcing them.

I'd be interested hearing different perspectives if guys feel they ran into that. Personally I have never felt I ran in to any exploitation other than me being the sucker more times than I'd like to admit.
 
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    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet popular Molly 25โ€™s with big buttocks open mind and young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body,young flirty Ivy 36DD with big buttocks 30โ€™s and cute GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 bomok appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  29. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yumi๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’‹A striking new tall gorgeous Korean model with long, flowing reddish-brown hair cascading down her back and a slender, elegant figure that exudes grace and poise. Yumiโ€™s natural confidence and allure, make her approach
  30. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Mimi and yoyo work
  31. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ190 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: Superstar Lisa, RMT Rose, Wild Sexy Milf Monica and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  32. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls๏ผŒNina ใ€Cindy ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, New girl Yuki Round buttocks ๐Ÿ˜œpretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise
  33. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Elena Vietnamese Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Cici Cute Vietnamese Girl Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446
  34. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Fun Girl Apple, New Pretty Girl Angela, RMT Grace, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ GRACE AND APPLE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  35. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Take a peek on Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: Nancy, Tina and Kitty will be there to ignite all your desires. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  36. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Take a peek on Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: Nancy, Tina and Kitty will be there to ignite all your desires. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  37. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Sunday June 1, 2025, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿค—, Christina ๐Ÿ˜, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ, Ivy ๐Ÿคฉ and Lucy ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCandy๐ŸŒธVivian๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธHellen๐ŸŒธMelissa Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒ. 4young beautiful girls working everyda,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,new friendly nice girl CiCi,providing oil deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide,back work.more experience ,๐Ÿ…nice Vietnamese Amy is very beautiful face,open maid,amazing touch,happy the end,give you warm and comfortable time,really popular girl,must try๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  40. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  41. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Sexy Saturday๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Cici, Yoyo, Amber, Juliet, GFE Eva,Echo,๐Ÿ†•Julia, Lucy, Akino & Jennyโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - Your Black Friday Bliss is Here!๐Ÿ™Œ
  42. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl angel very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask...
  43. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot busty Singapore ๐ŸŒน Indian ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนkorean girls๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนworking ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—at markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  44. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (12PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  45. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ HELEN, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  46. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ NEW ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ NEW LANA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ AISHA ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  47. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  48. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 [/color] Alice spa has 3 attractive honeys today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (12pm-9pm) is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA (10am-9pm)
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cherry Sara & Tracy. Sara is young & slim with nice C Cups, trim waist, sexy bum and long hair. She is vary friendly uses her assets well. Cherry is slim and very beautiful, can deliver a great service experience. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mix
  50. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
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