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I find the best actual massages come from middle aged, overweight Asian ladies with strong hands who I do not want to fuck. All else is frustrating. You pay for HH FS and what you get is 15 minutes of the MPA running the clock, a few minutes of tease, five to ten minutes of sex and then clean-up. What I actually like is 5 minutes of tease, then sex, then cleanup and if there is time left a massage. Massage is much better after sex anyways. Depending on my mood the sex might take 5 minutes or up to 20 minutes. Until now I have always wanted the MPA to be comfortable with me so at the beginning I agree on services and price and then let her lead. No more. From now I will take the lead. I did this on Friday and came away more satisfied than usual.
 
I find the best actual massages come from middle aged, overweight Asian ladies with strong hands who I do not want to fuck. All else is frustrating. You pay for HH FS and what you get is 15 minutes of the MPA running the clock, a few minutes of tease, five to ten minutes of sex and then clean-up. What I actually like is 5 minutes of tease, then sex, then cleanup and if there is time left a massage. Massage is much better after sex anyways. Depending on my mood the sex might take 5 minutes or up to 20 minutes. Until now I have always wanted the MPA to be comfortable with me so at the beginning I agree on services and price and then let her lead. No more. From now I will take the lead. I did this on Friday and came away more satisfied than usual.
Would you like to share who you spend time with?
 
My most relaxing time was when we agreed on hh cbj and she decided to do the massage after the BJ. I was almost asleep by the end
 
I find the best actual massages come from middle aged, overweight Asian ladies with strong hands who I do not want to fuck. All else is frustrating. You pay for HH FS and what you get is 15 minutes of the MPA running the clock, a few minutes of tease, five to ten minutes of sex and then clean-up. What I actually like is 5 minutes of tease, then sex, then cleanup and if there is time left a massage. Massage is much better after sex anyways. Depending on my mood the sex might take 5 minutes or up to 20 minutes. Until now I have always wanted the MPA to be comfortable with me so at the beginning I agree on services and price and then let her lead. No more. From now I will take the lead. I did this on Friday and came away more satisfied than usual.

Good to know that I am not the only one seeing such patterns from these MP's. It is annoying, waste of time and money. It seems to these MPs that when we visit spas all we wanted is extras. Incorrect and shallow assumptions. The most mood killer is when they full off a last 10 to 15 minutes of the session pitch: What do you want to do? How much will you pay? After several questions, back and forth discussions you are down with 8 to 10 minutes time left. WTH...After getting a lousy massage and this MP has the audacity to up sell. Total cock block!

Hobbyist....Be smart and spend money wisely. Truth is...You cannot put tag price on a great and exhilarating sexual encounter. At that moment, you know no matter what, it will not be able to match with any amount of money. So, when it happens, be generous (a little, he he he). Tip, don't bring loads of cash. You will tend to splurge when excited and on unexplainable passion:)
 
Letโ€™s start a revolution - negotiation, then sex, then massage. Who is with me?
...u can do it now... no revolution required... going to totally NOT legit spa? Magic words: "Been here b4"... even if its lie... tell them what u want... while fully clothed... leaning on door jam... hopefully shoes still on... ๐Ÿ‘Ÿ

...& if she renegs, get clothes back on & run, I do this, it works... obv not @ Flirt, but Asian spas... ๐Ÿƒโ€โ™‚๏ธ
 
...u can do it now... no revolution required... going to totally NOT legit spa? Magic words: "Been here b4"... even if its lie... tell them what u want... while fully clothed... leaning on door jam... hopefully shoes still on... ๐Ÿ‘Ÿ

...& if she renegs, get clothes back on & run, I do this, it works... obv not @ Flirt, but Asian spas... ๐Ÿƒโ€โ™‚๏ธ
I would like to change things - unlikely but worth a shot. One person does can only change things for himself. Let's raise standards. No more paying to have our time wasted.
 
Seriously, if you guys value a nice massage, you should really try semi-legits...trust me, you will not leave anything on the table in terms of the extras either, but there's always the YMMV factor and it may take several visits for the MPA to be comfortable with you.
 
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Seriously, if you guys value a nice massage, you should really try semi-legits...trust me, you will not leave anything on the table in terms of the extras either, but there's always the YMMV factor and it make take several visits for the MPA to be comfortable with you.
I think you like the hunt and I like the kill.
 
I think you like the hunt and I like the kill.

Yeah, I would agree with that. I'm guessing most guys don't want to bother with the "courting" process and just want to get down to business. Like you said, I'm more patient and like to find that special gem...I don't mind if they are low mileage at the beginning but I'll quickly filter out any greedy MPAs or ones that are not putting the effort to make the session memorable (I don't necessarily mean the extras either).
 
I would like to change things - unlikely but worth a shot. One person does can only change things for himself. Let's raise standards. No more paying to have our time wasted.
Ok... no probs... @SJRich1973 can confirm, we been talking bout this technique 4 a bit... ;)

...its relief 4 girls, 2... u= not LE trying 2 trap them, or nube doesn't no how it goes down...

Legit spa= location 4 msg
Semi-legit & semi-holistic spas= location 4 msg & fun stuffs....
Holistic: storefront for SPs...

...for 2nd two, this works, don't waste time...

Vive! Vive la revolution! ๐ŸŽ‰๐ŸŽ†
 
Hereโ€™s what Iโ€™ll do at fuck shops. I called ahead knowing that someone Iโ€™ve seen b4 or have not seen b4 is NOT available, shows up and ask for her, if the girls working saids that person is not available, then Iโ€™ll asked to see another girls, if no one is my liking, Iโ€™ll bounce. 9 times out of 10 itโ€™ll work. Again, I know, not everyone has the same will power to say no, when em tities in your face.
 
I have to agree. I'm one of those dudes who "court".
Holistic or Semi, doesnt matter. If I like her, then I'm on her train.. and some of the extra benefits that come down the pike, well,
it's just gold in this biz..

The "benefits" (at least for me) are worth it. For example, just this past weekend, the SO was going out for ladies night and I felt bored with nothing to do. Most of my buddies are married with children so outings are normally planned and it's not easy to just go out on the fly. I messaged one of my faves and even though she was working a full shift that day (and was tired) as well as the next morning, she agreed to come out for a few drinks and to watch some games on the big screen.

PS: seems like during these Covid days, they don't want people drinking from bottles so they actually poured the alcohol into those brown paper cups...for shots, they use little plastic cups (which can be seen on the right).
 
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Seriously, if you guys value a nice massage, you should really try semi-legits...trust me, you will not leave anything on the table in terms of the extras either, but there's always the YMMV factor and it make take several visits for the MPA to be comfortable with you.
I couldn't agree more I have changed over to a legit place and get a good cbj or hand job but a full hour of brilliant massage that leaves every muscle drained all for 100 bucks total for an hour!! Not your flaccid back rub then negotiate a timed hand or blow job sceneries you get at most holistic spas. Of course YMMV and the masseuse will remain nameless as it has taken a while to establish trust between us.it's kinda fun as she tries to keep quite so nobody knows the wiser,
Having said that just back from seeing g one of my all time favorite at a holistic spa,think useful knows who I am taking about. Real gem.
 
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Hereโ€™s what Iโ€™ll do at fuck shops. I called ahead knowing that someone Iโ€™ve seen b4 or have not seen b4 is NOT available, shows up and ask for her, if the girls working saids that person is not available, then Iโ€™ll asked to see another girls, if no one is my liking, Iโ€™ll bounce. 9 times out of 10 itโ€™ll work. Again, I know, not everyone has the same will power to say no, when em tities in your face.

Haha, I do that all the time at new places. You don't even have to be there before. Just find out the schedule from here or call the spa and ask who's working on XYZ day...once you have a name, you can do your strategy.
 
Yeah, I would agree with that. I'm guessing most guys don't want to bother with the "courting" process and just want to get down to business. Like you said, I'm more patient and like to find that special gem...I don't mind if they are low mileage at the beginning but I'll quickly filter out any greedy MPAs or ones that are not putting the effort to make the session memorable (I don't necessarily mean the extras either).
I'm in Kl's camp. Getting that special gem in the legit or semi-legit is a real rush versus the predictable seasoned pro. When I read about the DFK, BBBJ, CIM provider s that run an assembly line day in day out I want to puke.
 
I'm in Kl's camp. Getting that special gem in the legit or semi-legit is a real rush versus the predictable seasoned pro. When I read about the DFK, BBBJ, CIM provider s that run an assembly line day in day out I want to puke.
I want it all - the sex, the sensuality and the personal connection. When I was new to the hobby the uncertainty of whether extras would be offered was a thrill, but not now.
 
I want it all - the sex, the sensuality and the personal connection. When I was new to the hobby the uncertainty of whether extras would be offered was a thrill, but not now.

You can have the first two but it will be difficult to get the 3rd one without some sort of emotional investment on your side...

For me the uncertainty factor is still there but the scale has changed. Back in the day, I may have been anxious to find out if I would even get a HJ, now the excitement is whether they will do much more ๐Ÿ™‚.
 
Totally understand what you are saying, but this is why I think guys like you should go see an SP.

I don't mind the massage, but there has to be a certain level of effort.
 
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    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Taiwanese Victoria slime 26โ€™s and young flirty Mia 25โ€™s with curly body , pretty Ella and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  32. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We had two girls today, Niko and Kiki. They were both young, pretty and cute. The massage and back massage were great.
  33. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  34. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Young RMT Student Helen, Sexy Busty Apple, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ HELEN AND APPLE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  35. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ190 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: Fun Girl Angela, New Indian Girl Radika and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  36. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Mia new Vietnamese sweetheart girl with amazing personality Tiffany She is new as MPA From Philippines Slim Body Great Massage Fun personality Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed
  37. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: Tiffany, Vivian and Kitty will be on shift. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  38. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Wednesday May 28, 2025, our attendants will be Carla ๐Ÿ’‹, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ, Opal ๐Ÿคฉ, Sandy ๐Ÿ˜ and Yoyo ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  39. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  40. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  41. Sabrina Fox:
    I'M HOT BUSTY AFRICAN GIRL AVAILABLE AT WESTON & ST. CLAIR. LETS HOOK UP! ๐Ÿ“ž 647-271-9648
  42. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Gabby , sunny , larissa , lora, michelle , christine on duty at top notch.
  43. Nu spring spa888:
    โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธsexy hot Germany๐ŸŒธKorean ๐ŸŒธViennese girl working at๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’“ Nu spring spa โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  44. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธBrandy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  45. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Tuesday ๐Ÿ’œ Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†• Aliyah, Lucy, Cindy, Yui, new Jojo, Coco, Cici, busty Amber, Kelly & Jasmine โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awai
  46. SpringGreen.:
    Apple off your weeked with a bang๏ผ Judy is at spring green in downtown toronto Tuesday from 9am-9pm with apple and coco. apple is a very beautiful andcaring young lady๏ผkitty is super hot.๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹647-891-0699 ask and text questions thanks๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  47. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  48. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (2AM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  49. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ASHA, MALIYA, MONIKA, ANGEL, MIMI, PREETI, ANGELINA, DIYA, PAYAL PEARL, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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