Massage therapy, school, and PCOS questions

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There are several things I'm going to touch on, so I'm not sure where would be the best place to post this.

I'm a licensed aesthetician, and I enjoy the massage aspect the most out of everything within my scope of practice. This has left me feeling like I've chosen the wrong path, so I've decided to look into going to massage school.

The downside is that I have PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome). This was something I struggled with in aesthetics school because of my excess male pattern facial hair, as well as my excess body hair. I'm not talking a few stray black coarse hairs, but full-on male pattern body hair. So to say I'm self-conscious would be an understatement. In aesthetics, it got to a point of where I didn't have to regularly be touched by others because I was doing my clinical work on outside clients, but massage seems different.

I've searched the forums on body hair, and how most MTs don't care about body hair at all, but this seems to mainly be in regards to men. What about excess hair when it's on women, especially face, back, and stomach? I've got a serious problem that can only be solved by taking some heavy duty and adrenal gland straining medications that aren't suitable for me at this current time (trying to conceive).

I can and do wax my body (or have it waxed), but the hair has to have time to grow. Being as I will be in school for months, this would be pretty difficult to do without having that awkward growing phase.

Am I just letting this hold me back for no good reason? Most of the people I went to school with were semi-professional about my man hair growth, but it was awkward at the first touch and I could feel their apprehension.

Also, what are you experiences with women with PCOS in practice? I see discussion of doing abdominal massage. This is something I would dread and agonize over, not because of my jiggly hairy bits, but because of the potential for excruciating pain due to enlarged and awkwardly placed ovaries. I know for the sake of others learning, I might just have to grin and bear it. Can I opt out of certain areas being treated on my own body while in school? My aesthetics instructors really didn't respect my boundaries when it came to saying, "Hey, I feel very uncomfortable doing/with this."

Whew, sorry so long. Thanks in advance!
 
Massage therapy, school, and PCOS questions

1. Really, really, really, your hair isn't a problem. As a woman (with average hair growth) who does not shave, I can attest to the fact that nobody gives a crap. All your classmates will be focused on trying to learn whatever techniques they're being introduced to, not the interesting features of your anatomy. If nothing else, you can educate them so that they recognize what they're dealing with when they later have a client with PCOS.

2. As far as abdominal massage goes, if you have a contraindication, your instructor will ensure that nobody works on you in ways that would be harmful. I have a ligament problem that meant some of the joint mobilizations we did in class would have been harmful to me. Not only was it good for my classmates to learn what NOT to do, our instructor taught the class alternative treatments for someone with a similar condition.

3. For the question you didn't ask: if you have really bad periods, go ahead and explain to your instructors as soon as you begin classes. They will be much happier knowing what is going on with you each month, rather than wondering why the heck you're not engaged at your usual level and/or worrying about your health.

Good luck! I have a friend who also started as an aesthetician, and while she did both for a while, she now focuses entirely on massage and is much happier. :)

Kat
 
Massage therapy, school, and PCOS questions

peacherine said:
Am I just letting this hold me back for no good reason?

Absolutely. Your hair will not make a difference. If anyone is squeamish about a hairy woman it will be a fantastic chance for them to get over it because they will experience it in their professional practice.

What you say about your aesthetics teacher not respecting your boundaries makes me sad. In massage school your teacher should be well trained in ethics and respecting people's boundaries, although of course a classroom environment is not the same as a therapeutic environment and you will have to speak up for yourself. If it's causing you excruciating pain, you shouldn't have to endure it so someone else can learn. On the other hand, if there are times when there is no pain present (though the touch it self may feel uncomfortable) I would suggest you go through this as a learning process for yourself. If you are going to work on the abdomen's of your clients, it will help you a lot to know how it feels in your body. I see again and again in massage classes that the areas that students don't want to have worked on for themselves are the areas where they are lacking in skill and confidence when working on clients.

If you have areas you don't want to have worked on due to pain, just discuss this with your teachers and classmates. That shouldn't be hard to work around.
 
Massage therapy, school, and PCOS questions

Thank you both for your insightful answers. I wholeheartedly appreciate them.

I've had a lot of internal conflict about this hair issue. Aesthetics school was traumatic for my self-esteem. I tried to use my condition as a learning tool, explaining that they definitely will have clients with PCOS. Lo and behold, there was one client who came in for a facial, and after she had left the clinic floor, my classmate said, "Oh my God. That was so disgusting. That woman had a BEARD!" This was just my personal experience in school, and it has me a little spooked.

This time around, I am extensively reviewing, researching, and interviewing schools in order to avoid my experience in aesthetics. I've been focusing on schools that require things like letters of recommendations, interviews, essays, proof of professional massages, etc, to make sure that the school is also being selective and not just interested in money.

I think, as my husband says, I just need to accept it and move on. Now that I've typed it out and shared it with other people, it seems silly that I'm letting something like body hair keep me from pursuing my dreams. Fear and insecurity in my own body probably won't be too helpful if I'm trying to go out there and massage someone else's body anyway.

Thanks for the note about the periods. Mine can be bad and it hadn't crossed my mind to share what's happening with my classmates and instructors.
 
Massage therapy, school, and PCOS questions

I just want to chime in and encourage you as well. Like the others said already, you need have no worry about body hair; my experienced was that the people who put themselves through massage school are those that are truly concerned with helping other feel good not only physically but mentally as well, and generally are, or become fascinated with the anatomy of the body. Massage school isn't about learning to rub on rich, beautiful people, but teaching the students what they need to know in order to help people of all types feel more comfortable in their bodies.

The school you choose should have a good ethics class that will help students, that may not be quite as aware of the different body types out there, learn how to sensitively work with folks who may present with different conditions whether they affect the bodywork, or not.

My own classroom experience; being part Italian I have no lack of body hair where I'd prefer not to, and never shave above my knees. One palpation class, I was the only person wearing shorts and we were working on the thigh muscles. Guess who got picked as the demo? The TA rolled my shorts up *really* high and proceeded to outline my muscles in colored markers. I could feel my face turning beat red, but when I got the courage up to open my eyes and peak, I saw everybody listening in raptured silence as she talked and some even taking pictures with their cell phones! Soon, my hairy legs took a back seat to my over blown pride in my leg muscles, lol! :grin:

You will see bodies of all types in massage school, and I have to say I never once felt like I or my body was being judged by anyone! I hope you will keep us updated in your journey. Best of luck!!! :smt006
 
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    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim & incredible
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  38. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite
  39. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Larissa , Gabby , Sunny, Kimmie , Christine and new Lora on duty at top norch wellness. Call 437-522-9961 now
  40. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Tuesday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Christina ๐Ÿคฉ, Cici ๐Ÿค—, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ and Connie ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  41. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ASHA, JANVI, MONIKA, SASHA, AMANDA, PAOLA, MALIYA, PREET, SARIKA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  42. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Angel ๐Ÿ’• Very beautiful girl from Taiwan, very curvy, young and sexy, she can provide a great massage and wonderful touch and super service. Angel is so sexy, especially her 34C breasts and her big juicy tight bum you can wors
  43. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (7PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  44. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH (12PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  45. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit A8 ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (12PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  46. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธCassy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  47. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธXukaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Tiffany She is new as MPA From Philippines Slim Body Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girlโ€จโ˜Ž๏ธ647- 44
  49. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  50. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Superstar Yoga Girl Lucy, Fun Girl Kelly๐ŸŽ, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ LUCY AND KELLY๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
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