Nervous and tense people who just will not relax

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Have you ever worked on someone that was just like a rock. I mean frozen, like maybe nervous or just the kind of person who can NOT relax.

So far in practicing with a couple of these type of people they end up making ME nervous and tense too. What can I do differently with these people? I try to go into it centered and relaxed but the more I massage and the longer I can't get them to relax the more worried about it I get.
 


I had a few of these clients at the chair massage event I did with my class yesterday. I couldn't tell what was muscle and what was bone on some of them. They were like rocks, just like you said, and I had only 8-10 minutes to help them. I just tried to breathe, relax, and remind myself that these are the folks who need it the most! I used a lot of warming techniques and some rocking. In one case, fingertip tapotement actually worked a little. I wanted to take a few of those clients home with me, put them in a hot bath with epsom salts and apple cider vinegar for about 20 minutes, and try again on the table!

Kemilyna
 
Nervous and tense people who just will not relax

sandyrose said:
the more I massage and the longer I can't get them to relax the more worried about it I get.

First of all, you need to let it go. If you are not in a relaxed state, this energy will carry over in to your massage.

Believe it or not, these people probably are relaxed. Or as relaxed as they are ever going to be. Not everyone is going to completely chill out and start snoring. Everyone is different. These people are probably very up-tight "normally" and they probably are as relaxed as they can be during the massage.

Just let them enjoy their "relaxation." Trust what you are doing.

Angie
 


Ditto Angie.

You cant take away 20 years of bad posture hunched over a desk 8 hours a day 5 days a week in one hour. Heck you may never take it away! Only they can, if it is possible at all. We can only assist them.
 


Hi SandyRose,

Yes, I have worked on people who are stiff as a board. I have noticed that part of me may start to get a little anxious about it, but I have managed to let my compassion take over during the massage.

I feel for those people. I may not know what their experiences have been that show up in their body like that, but I think they are doing the best they can. These are the people that need it the most and I give them credit for even coming in a getting a massage.

There is a fellow that I have worked on a couple times in the past month. He kept his eyes open the whole time while supine and was very stiff. I learned later that he's someone who has experienced civil war first hand in another country. He was a Colonel in the Liberian military. He lived through the violence of war for years. I think it's amazing that he can now experience nurturing touch after having experienced something so horrendous.

Just remember when you are massaging those people who are like a rock that they have most likely been that way for MANY years. It's going to take alot more than one massage or even YEARS of massage for them to relax. Believe that your massage is contributing to their well being and that it's making a difference to them.
 


Wow, let me say, do I understand where you are coming from, and you are not alone. This is probably one of the top topics we talk about at work.

One thing, like RM said, could be life things. I have a client like this who I believe had some sort of sexual abuse, and I believe someone told her to get massage to learn about good, positive touch. It does get hard and frustrating, but I try to think about these situations.

Sometimes, I don't think it is just tension like others are saying, I know what you mean, I think they simply can't relax (usually it's like someone's first massage type of thing). So what I try to do, it remind them to breathe, or if it's bad, I just do some rocking and tell them it's okay to relax, that I am going to do all the work, make a joke if I can, some people sometimes think they NEED to help us.

Realize too, some people don't even they realize they are doing it. I went in for a facial and she was doing massage on my arms, and she was like, RELAX!! :lol: I did it, and I hate when people do it!!! And...I thought I was relaxed! And again, lots of people tell me when I just tell them to relax, they laugh and say they thought they were!

So sometimes that will help, other people, it might just be a defense mechanism that they can't turn off. What I try to do is just do stuff without moving them too much so they don't have to "help" and just try to do relaxing, gentle strokes, very slow. It's usually by the end of the massage, but sometimes they do relax!! :lol:
 


I will say also that, as a "tense" client myself, instructing a client like this to relax or telling them that they seem tense can feel judgemental, like I'm doing something wrong. I try instead to say things like "I can feel that shoulder starting to release" or what have you -- planting the suggestion that their body can do it. Or if they are a repeat client, noticing something, anything that is more relaxed than last time, and mention their progress.

Sometimes you will see the opposite problem -- a person whose tissue is very soft and relaxed, but believes they are tense. These people are just as hard to work on, because no matter what I do, they perceive themselves as needing to relax, they feel their tissues "tight" even when they are not. I have not come up with a great physical solution, although as someone mentioned above, compassion helps me get through the session.

There is an old thread on this topic that I'll try to dig up.
 


naked eye said:
Sometimes, I don't think it is just tension like others are saying, I know what you mean, I think they simply can't relax (usually it's like someone's first massage type of thing). So what I try to do, it remind them to breathe, or if it's bad, I just do some rocking and tell them it's okay to relax, that I am going to do all the work, make a joke if I can, some people sometimes think they NEED to help us.
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So sometimes that will help, other people, it might just be a defense mechanism that they can't turn off. What I try to do is just do stuff without moving them too much so they don't have to "help" and just try to do relaxing, gentle strokes, very slow. It's usually by the end of the massage, but sometimes they do relax!! :lol:

(nod) I tell people to take deep breathes and to focus on their breathing and if they're "helping" with passive movements, I try giving them some imagery, like "let your arm be heavy and floppy, like a bunch of wet rags" or "let your leg fall out to the side, giving me its weight." Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. When it doesn't, I try to use a different technique or I just give up on passive movements!

naked eye said:
Realize too, some people don't even they realize they are doing it. I went in for a facial and she was doing massage on my arms, and she was like, RELAX!! :lol: I did it, and I hate when people do it!!! And...I thought I was relaxed! And again, lots of people tell me when I just tell them to relax, they laugh and say they thought they were!

I try not to tell people to relax, because I hate it, too! Some people get MORE anxious if they feel like they can't relax, because they're not doing it "right." I try to remember to use positive, encouraging phrases, like complimenting good deep breathing: "good breathing!" or "beautiful breath!" And flood my thoughts of positive, non-judgemental things, too. If they seem like they can't relax, that's okay. They are a beautiful person and will benefit from my compassionate touch. (So I keep telling myself.)
 
Nervous and tense people who just will not relax

moogie303 said:
sandyrose said:
the more I massage and the longer I can't get them to relax the more worried about it I get.

First of all, you need to let it go. If you are not in a relaxed state, this energy will carry over in to your massage.

Believe it or not, these people probably are relaxed. Or as relaxed as they are ever going to be. Not everyone is going to completely chill out and start snoring. Everyone is different. These people are probably very up-tight "normally" and they probably are as relaxed as they can be during the massage.

Just let them enjoy their "relaxation." Trust what you are doing.

Angie

Well said Angie! Tension only brings on more tension.

I am one of those who has a hard time relaxing. Even when I feel relaxed, I am often told to relax and then I really tense up! In todays society most people are always in a hurry. We are constantly trying to do one, two or three tasks at once while thinking what we have to do next. When it comes time to relax, our brains keep rushing ahead. How often do you go to bed thinking that you will fall right to sleep only to have all these thoughts start racing through your mind?

What works best for me is a little chit chat. It calms my mind and helps me focus on other things. I tend to have a racing brain and small talk allows me to slow down. Before long I do actually relax which makes it easier for my therapist and allows me to fully enjoy the session. I know that is not the solution for everyone, but it works for me.
 


I don't ask them to relax. But I will use some subtle suggestions like some of the others have given. I will often ask them to just give me all the weight of their head, arm, whatever. I will also take some nice deep breaths myself to sort of signal them to breath deeply. And I love jostling, and rocking motions. In the end I just try to do my thing and hope they will come on the journey with me.
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  32. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot busty Singapore ๐ŸŒน Indian ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนkorean girls๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนworking ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—at markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  33. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white cream skin, pretty face, can bbbj cim dfk 69 cof sf2, available all services, excellent treatment. KITTY is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business.
  34. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (2PM), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (9PM), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  35. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH (2AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  36. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (12PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (2PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  37. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  38. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: :wonderspa: โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful young Jessica sexy body,deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily Q,friendly,amazing massage,happy the end,really popular,must tryโค๏ธ
  39. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  40. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธCindy๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธNadia๐ŸŒธAnna Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  41. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKelly๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile.
  45. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Thursday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ, Vicky ๐Ÿฅณ, Sophie ๐Ÿค— and Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  46. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Top notch wellness: Ella , elena, Angela, Michelle, gabby , and Vanna. Call us now to make your appointment. 437-522-9961
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Taiwanese Victoria slime 26โ€™s open mind and young flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open min, young popular kitty 26โ€™s with curve body and pretty Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls working today. Judy and Kiki. They are young and beautiful, cute and sexy. Deep tissue massage and relaxation massage are both great. Back walking is very comfortable. They have sweet smiles and work seriously. If you are tired from work, come and make an appointment!๐Ÿค—
  49. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅOur famous sexy superstar Suki is working today Thursday May 29th with busty 36DD young girl Bobo, Sexy New Petite Japanese Cutie Mico and Sweet Sensual Busty Coco๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Call Annie Spa to book appointments ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐ŸฉทAnnie Spa๐Ÿฉท 1001 Sandhurst Circle Unit #7 โ˜Ž๏ธ647-891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ416-291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ
  50. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
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