Record Increase of Deaths in 2020

Maybe if you're in the middle of nowhere, like on Easter Island or something, but much harder to be effective in an interconnected world with millions of people making what's deemed essential travel.

With previous flight bans there were all kinds of exceptions for citizens returning, diplomacy, essential business, etc. All you need is a one case and bam a new variant is circulating. I'm not saying it doesn't make any difference - it does. So does everyone locking themselves in their rooms forever. The problem is you have to consider what is viable, not just what is effective.
No youโ€™re full of shit. You no the could have drastically reduced flights, but big business didnโ€™t want to stop. By that logic why have a shut down at all. What the fuck did it really do. It was a band aid over gapping a flesh wound.

Everyone talking about this is full of shit. Some more then others. My self included, but I know one thing. Are environment canโ€™t handle us all, and weโ€™re near the point of no return, and a virus comes out. What is any rational person supposed to think, and this all started around a lap that studies viruses in China. Fill in the blanks for youโ€™re self.
 
So who is the modern day vaccine Hitler?

With the birth rate outpacing the death rate it sure seems like the 90% world population reduction scheme is a bit of a disaster so far!

I guess we'll continue to patiently await the billions of vaccine deaths you've predicted.
The next 10 years will see BIo weapons ( which includes viruses and vaccines ) , Nuclear attacks, climate change weapons, wars, cyber attacks and food shortages to make sure that happens.

Yeah understandably, it's far fetched to include nuclear attacks since that hasn't happend since ww2, but we are in a planned worldwide pandemic right now, which also hasnt happend since 1918, but it did happen today. SO anything IS possible this decade, especilaly given the circumstances with Iran, China and Syria
 
But would I die years from now?? That seems rather unlikely.

Meanwhile if you get covid, odds are massively higher you could die in the near term. So between your own risk and halting the spread to others, even if you're feel safe yourself, it's an easy choice, and a rational one.
the problem is, none of what you said is remotely true.

The vaccine has already killed over 10,000 people in europe and North America alone, in just 4 months of it being administered. Some peopled died the same day, some the next day, some a week later, some a month later. IT's the same with Covid really. But with Covid, at least you are not DOUBLING your chances of death, by giving yourself a vaccine on top of it ;)
 
The numbers of infected people around here have risen with the number of vaccinations, which is counterintuitive. There must be some connection.
 
The numbers of infected people around here have risen with the number of vaccinations, which is counterintuitive. There must be some connection.
To play devils advocate. Maybe those people got infected because less people are wearing masks. Large numbers at vaccination centres.
 
Quite literally no one knows what the long-term effects of the vaccines are, and it's disingenuous to pretend there aren't any, or that they aren't serious.
Quite literally we know what the short-term effects of COVID are (including death).
Quite literally no one knows what the long-term effects of COVID are, and it's disingenuous to pretend there aren't any, or that they aren't serious.

So based on evidence to date, the lesser of two evils by far is the vaccine.
 
the problem is, none of what you said is remotely true.

The vaccine has already killed over 10,000 people in europe and North America alone, in just 4 months of it being administered. Some peopled died the same day, some the next day, some a week later, some a month later. IT's the same with Covid really. But with Covid, at least you are not DOUBLING your chances of death, by giving yourself a vaccine on top of it ;)
Let's suppose for a moment that your figure of 10,000 is true (it isn't). 10,000 deaths among ~400 million vaccine doses across North America & Europe means a fatality rate of 0.0025% or 1000 times less fatal than COVID. So even if the vaccine were only 1% effective, it would still make sense to take it. Oh, let me guess, your brilliant counterargument (with no evidence) will be that it somehow doesn't work against COVID at all.
 
No youโ€™re full of shit. You no the could have drastically reduced flights, but big business didnโ€™t want to stop. By that logic why have a shut down at all. What the fuck did it really do. It was a band aid over gapping a flesh wound.

Everyone talking about this is full of shit. Some more then others. My self included, but I know one thing. Are environment canโ€™t handle us all, and weโ€™re near the point of no return, and a virus comes out. What is any rational person supposed to think, and this all started around a lap that studies viruses in China. Fill in the blanks for youโ€™re self.

Stopping flights isn't really going to make any tremendous difference when covid is already well established throughout the Americas. Regardless I totally understand the reptilian appeal to the idea that the solution to every problem is to keep dirty evil foreigners OUT!
 
The next 10 years will see BIo weapons ( which includes viruses and vaccines ) , Nuclear attacks, climate change weapons, wars, cyber attacks and food shortages to make sure that happens.

Yeah understandably, it's far fetched to include nuclear attacks since that hasn't happend since ww2, but we are in a planned worldwide pandemic right now, which also hasnt happend since 1918, but it did happen today. SO anything IS possible this decade, especilaly given the circumstances with Iran, China and Syria

Wow that's a conspiracy theory that hedges its bets! OK so anything bad that happens in the next few decades - wars, famine, climate, pandemic - is all part of the secret plan to reduce the world population by 90% - got it. Whatever next bad thing comes down the pike we'll all know you warned us first.
 
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Let's suppose for a moment that your figure of 10,000 is true (it isn't). 10,000 deaths among ~400 million vaccine doses across North America & Europe means a fatality rate of 0.0025% or 1000 times less fatal than COVID. So even if the vaccine were only 1% effective, it would still make sense to take it. Oh, let me guess, your brilliant counterargument (with no evidence) will be that it somehow doesn't work against COVID at all.

Either that, or they'll argue there are way more vaccine deaths because there are no covid deaths whatsoever!

Here's what the conservative Premier of Alberta Jason Kenney said yesterday, where they currently have a higher infection percentage than Brazil or India:

It is as astounding as it is aggravating that 14 months into this, more than 2,000 deaths in Alberta alone, that we still have many people in the province who donโ€™t even believe that COVID is real, who think that itโ€™s a big government conspiracy or hoax

 
Stopping flights isn't really going to make any tremendous difference when covid is already well established throughout the Americas. Regardless I totally understand the reptilian appeal to the idea that the solution to every problem is to keep dirty evil foreigners OUT!
Iโ€™m am not against immigration. Donโ€™t try and paint me as a dog whistling racist. I mean stop all flights. Even in county flights and flights to the states. Thatโ€™s whatโ€™s spreading the virus. Then things can go back to normal again.
 
Wow that's a conspiracy theory that hedges its bets! OK so anything bad that happens in the next few decades - wars, famine, climate, pandemic - is all part of the secret plan to reduce the world population by 90% - got it. Whatever next bad thing comes down the pike we'll all know you warned us first.
The nuclear thing was a bit stupid, but the bottom line is this. World war 3 is around the corner, and itโ€™s gonna be for space and water. Even people in country are gonna fight. Money race genders political affliction donโ€™t matter. That is well acknowledged fact.
 
Either that, or they'll argue there are way more vaccine deaths because there are no covid deaths whatsoever!

Here's what the conservative Premier of Alberta Jason Kenney said yesterday, where they currently have a higher infection percentage than Brazil or India:

It is as astounding as it is aggravating that 14 months into this, more than 2,000 deaths in Alberta alone, that we still have many people in the province who donโ€™t even believe that COVID is real, who think that itโ€™s a big government conspiracy or hoax

I said Covid is real. I said more people die from it. Iโ€™m way more left then right. Masks work staying away from each other works. Itโ€™s like you want to justify to yourself. It was good you got the shot.
 
It came from a lab, not a bat.

 
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Wow that's a conspiracy theory that hedges its bets! OK so anything bad that happens in the next few decades - wars, famine, climate, pandemic - is all part of the secret plan to reduce the world population by 90% - got it. Whatever next bad thing comes down the pike we'll all know you warned us first.
I was thinking he was going to say that Aliens that look human but are really lizard people were going to invade earth in big spaceships. One of their leaders is a women named Diana so we look at them as being progressive and welcome them. It all starts out nice but secretively they are harvesting humans as their food source. Fortunately, a small group of underground resistance fighters forms to fight them. One of their leaders, is a cameraman who has an online handle of โ€œDar, the Beastmasterโ€. He works with other leaders including a hothead Republican named โ€œHamโ€ that is a loose cannon, but being โ€œRepublicanโ€ he had a bunker and stockpile of guns and explosives. Not all humans resist and some sheep even join these aliens. The resistance ends up capturing an alien that turns out to sympathetic to humans and a human woman ends up falling in love with him. They end up having a baby with extraordinary powers that the aliens want to exploit. Eventually, this child helps the humans defeat the Aliens and everything returns to normal.

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Japan is anti-vax. and might be waiting for the development of a made in Japan vaccine. Their population continues to decline as Japanese women increasingly close their legs to Japanese men. The negative population growth rate may accelerate during this pandemic. Xenophobic Japan is loathed to let in foreigners .
Or maybe this twice nuked island knows something about the long term effects of the current vaccines that Israel does not?
 
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  33. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (2PM), ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  34. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  35. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY (12PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  36. Golden Sunshine Spa:
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  37. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธMonikaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  38. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Luna, Cindy, Coco,Cici, Jenny, Amber, JPN Yui, Akino, Jasmine & Lucyโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  39. Lulu1980:
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  40. SpringGreen.:
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  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
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  42. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, PAOLA, MALIYA, MONIKA, AMANDA, ASHA, JAZMINE, PREETI, ANGELINA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  43. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  44. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy face young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐ŸŒนvery nice new girl CiCi, amazing the end,give you warm time,must try๐ŸŒน๐Ÿฅค
  45. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (11am-8pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. DORIS (12pm-9pm): from Taiwan, is young & petite with loing thick black hair, 105 Lbs
  46. Annie Spa:
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  47. EMSpa_schedule:
    Hey! Where have you been? Today (Wednesday), our amazing attendants are Carla โ€, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Opal ๐Ÿคฉ, Sandy ๐Ÿค— and Yoyo ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  49. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, KIKI & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is slim & incredibly sexy
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: SARAH, SUSAN, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set of services to delight you. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy Latina girl, 5'4" & 116 Lbs, with nice boobs and ass, very versatile services.
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