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I have recently posted on towards other spas and had mentioned both SL and EM. A guy dm's me saying the ongoing arrogance of Renee. I do believe she was offering fs earlier this year, for whatever reasons, according to a friend. Some were saying a breakup may be the cause but he also said one time in the rear door room, both Renee and Lucy were there. Lucy said she had a rough night as she was laying on the bed and could hardly lift her head off pillow, like she was on a binge of some sort.
On another note, during opening hours for em, the door was locked. I am thinking , okay, receptionist is on bathroom break. Then saw Michelle pop out of a room and opened the door. She asked if I had an appt, I said no and she said sorry, am busy right now. I was never a regular for her but she was wearing knee high boots, mini and a loose pullover.
This was not too long ago and I was under the impression she did not do massage any longer. Like I said, I was never a Michelle type of guy but I have to say, that day she looked pretty hot. Is she doing massage for only special clients now?
Sounds like fetish-cosplay stuffโ€ฆ Renee does that 2โ€ฆ seen her all decked out in leather once
:sm

As for Renee, folks gonna believe what they wantโ€ฆ Im agnostic, but nobody said anything convincng 2 make me believeโ€ฆ no descrption of how it happened, what happened, was it cbj then cfsโ€ฆ or bbbjโ€ฆ what time, what rmโ€ฆ

Bcuz u provide 411, ppl can call u out, right?

So if I just say, yup, I did it ! Yup.

That was me. ๐Ÿ™‹โ€โ™‚๏ธ

U= convinced?

:lol
 
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I have to agree with you about these particular places. Those two owner's attitude and manners changed over the years.
My buddies also expressed same like these comments to me.
I was a regular customer for E&M years ( from the day they started). I am giving tips also in a good manner. I had a bad taste in my tongue, from last year, so that I stopped going over there. There is no shortage of places here in the GTA.
For KJ's support and bump higher most places due to other reasons. Selling his stuff and other things. That's nothing do with me. I am not against or for him.
Also the fking side effects of Covid , totally changed the people's state of mind. I think the service level went down so many places progressively.


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If it's the spa KJ is talking about, I have to agree with him here. It's new and clean. Yeah, any small place with only 2 girls might get disorganized from time to time (especially with new girls coming and going) but it's no big deal. Maybe your expectations are too high...you shouldn't be comparing these spas to legit clinics ๐Ÿ™‚. As I'm sure you know, most are run by ex-MPAs trying their best...

It does have a shitty set up for a new spa. They have one common shower, the front room is next to the front door and you have to walk past reception to get to the shower. It doesn't seem like any thought was put into the design.
 
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It does have a shitty set up for a new spa. They have one common shower, the front room is next to the front door and you have to walk past reception to get to the shower. It doesn't seem like any thought was put into the design.
Again, I didnโ€™t mention the spa by name. But it was definitely in a state of disarray, perhaps in mid cleaning or reorganizing but during open hours. And no one in sight for a few minutes, then totally surprised I was there. Not the best impression to make
 
Again, I didnโ€™t mention the spa by name. But it was definitely in a state of disarray, perhaps in mid cleaning or reorganizing but during open hours. And no one in sight for a few minutes, then totally surprised I was there. Not the best impression to make

I was more so commenting on OG's post on that particular spa.

Disorganization at any AMP is typically par for the course when the boss is not in.
 
The guys that have mentioned it are just posting on some general discussion type threads. They aren't 'reviews' per se so why would you expect a play-by-play? ๐Ÿ™‚


As for Renee, folks gonna believe what they wantโ€ฆ Im agnostic, but nobody said anything convincng 2 make me believeโ€ฆ no descrption of how it happened, what happened, was it cbj then cfsโ€ฆ or bbbjโ€ฆ what time, what rmโ€ฆ

Bcuz u provide 411, ppl can call u out, right?

So if I just say, yup, I did it ! Yup.

That was me. ๐Ÿ™‹โ€โ™‚๏ธ

U= convinced?

:lol
 
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It does have a shitty set up for a new spa. They have one common shower, the front room is next to the front door and you have to walk past reception to get to the shower. It doesn't seem like any thought was put into the design.

Not a big deal to me but to each their own. There's a room at the back right across from the shower. If you know you're gonna take a shower, just request that room...
 
I said it last year and some didn't agree. MPAs are going to be more TIP hungry once things open up.

They said MPAs would never do this because it will hurt them

Now I have seen and heard stories of MPAs asking for way more then the usual price for basic services.
 
It's pretty much the same as before. If they are expecting more, it's because they are doing more...but still the same market prices for the particular services that you are getting.


I said it last year and some didn't agree. MPAs are going to be more TIP hungry once things open up.

They said MPAs would never do this because it will hurt them

Now I have seen and heard stories of MPAs asking for way more then the usual price for basic services.
 
These Chinese MPAs should be grateful to be getting what they are being paid even with no or low tips. If they don't like it, they are welcome to go back to their trash home countries and make a fifth of what they are making in Canada. I also have no sympathy for Chinese that come into this country and not report their full income and not pay their fair share of taxes. Fuck these Chinese cunts
 
It's pretty much the same as before. If they are expecting more, it's because they are doing more...but still the same market prices for the particular services that you are getting.

I have noticed steady increases at holistic places though. FS used to be $100 on top of door fee, then it went to $120, some are $140 and up.

I don't know if it's covid related or simply girls trying to make maximum bank.
 
I have noticed steady increases at holistic places though. FS used to be $100 on top of door fee, then it went to $120, some are $140 and up.

I don't know if it's covid related or simply girls trying to make maximum bank.

Maybe...can't speak to the holistic places. But I've been to a lot of semi places and pretty much the same as before.

Having said that, there are a couple of places that have raised the room fee by $10 but most room fees are the same as before and tips are the same as before too...
 
I have noticed steady increases at holistic places though. FS used to be $100 on top of door fee, then it went to $120, some are $140 and up.

I don't know if it's covid related or simply girls trying to make maximum bank.

$140 is price point I have been hearing about.

I think it's just making bank because guys are willing to pay right now.
 
Maybe...can't speak to the holistic places. But I've been to a lot of semi places and pretty much the same as before.

Having said that, there are a couple of places that have raised the room fee by $10 but most room fees are the same as before and tips are the same as before too...

Semi places are a little different as things might take place that aren't typically on the menu.

My experience at semis has always been FS for $100 on top of door fee both pre and post covid. I have seen some girls asking for a premium since they are providing a service that is not supposed to be offered. For a hot younger girl the premium might be worth it, for a 40 plus, soft around the middle lady, not so much. These situations will always revolve around the girl and her mood and how much of a regular you are.
 
For a hot younger girl the premium might be worth it, for a 40 plus, soft around the middle lady, not so much. These situations will always revolve around the girl and her mood and how much of a regular you are.

Exactly.

and that goes for a youngish average at best girls as well.

they have been notorious for asking for more now.

Guys would be better off paying that price in a premium.
 
Semi places are a little different as things might take place that aren't typically on the menu.

My experience at semis has always been FS for $100 on top of door fee both pre and post covid. I have seen some girls asking for a premium since they are providing a service that is not supposed to be offered. For a hot younger girl the premium might be worth it, for a 40 plus, soft around the middle lady, not so much. These situations will always revolve around the girl and her mood and how much of a regular you are.

You're talking the highest level services at semi places which can be a bit of a gray area but I agree with the figure you quoted.

However, for basic services, I haven't experienced anything different compared to before.
 
If it's the spa KJ is talking about, I have to agree with him here. It's new and clean. Yeah, any small place with only 2 girls might get disorganized from time to time (especially with new girls coming and going) but it's no big deal. Maybe your expectations are too high...you shouldn't be comparing these spas to legit clinics ๐Ÿ™‚. As I'm sure you know, most are run by ex-MPAs trying their best...
your right about expectations..
 
These Chinese MPAs should be grateful to be getting what they are being paid even with no or low tips. If they don't like it, they are welcome to go back to their trash home countries and make a fifth of what they are making in Canada. I also have no sympathy for Chinese that come into this country and not report their full income and not pay their fair share of taxes. Fuck these Chinese cunts
This talk isnโ€™t acceptable.
Not in the least. So far this discussion has been pretty well behaved and respectful. Why did you have to come out and say this bigoted, racist nonsense?

Actually I donโ€™t think anyone needs to hear the answer to that. Please remove yourself from this constructive conversation and go do something else with your time.
 
The guys that have mentioned it are just posting on some general discussion type threads. They aren't 'reviews' per se so why would you expect a play-by-play? ๐Ÿ™‚
Donโ€™t actually need play-by-playโ€ฆ some Zamboni driver tells u he beat the Leafs ๐Ÿ’โ€ฆ

โ€ฆ if u havenโ€™t already heard, then u go, yeah right dude, right :crazy โ€ฆ but a bit of detail how it happened, then u believeโ€ฆ

Allotta zamboni drivers out there thoโ€ฆ only one beat the Budsโ€ฆ ;)
 
Lol, just admit it... you're Renee's hubby.

Donโ€™t actually need play-by-playโ€ฆ some Zamboni driver tells u he beat the Leafs ๐Ÿ’โ€ฆ

โ€ฆ if u havenโ€™t already heard, then u go, yeah right dude, right :crazy โ€ฆ but a bit of detail how it happened, then u believeโ€ฆ

Allotta zamboni drivers out there thoโ€ฆ only one beat the Budsโ€ฆ ;)
 
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    ๐ŸŒผ GOLDEN FS ๐Ÿ“ 8380 Kennedy Rd, #C6 ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 โœจ 10AMโ€“2AM ๐Ÿ’ซ LANA ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ โ€ข ROXY ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ โ€ข JULIE ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ โ€ข JESSIE ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ โ€ข SONIA ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ Golden girls with sweet hands & warm charm. Relax in style with beauty, care & cozy energy.
  30. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    ๐Ÿ’Ž BLUEXADO FS ๐Ÿ“ 1102 Centre St, #6 ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 โœจ 10AMโ€“12AM ๐Ÿ’ซ CICI ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ โ€ข AMY ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ โ€ข MY LINH ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ โ€ข JULIE ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ Cool vibes & sweet touch. Unwind with charm, care & graceful Asian beauty late into the night.
  31. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    ๐ŸŒธ Pink Flower Spa ๐Ÿ“ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit A8 ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 โœจ Open 10AMโ€“9PM ๐Ÿ’– ELINA ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡พ โ€ข MIKA ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ โ€ข KELLY ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ โ€ข VANESSA ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ Exotic charm & elegance. Let our radiant ladies melt your stress & lift your spirit. Pampering done right.
  32. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  33. SugarLoveSpa:
    ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿ˜˜today have susan, ella, tifany, lyly come to enjoy good time with our young beautiful girls , all service available...... Sugar Love spaโ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 365-2688๐Ÿ“ฒโ˜Ž๏ธ Spa Website:๐Ÿ’ you can click in this web to see All Girls pictures baby : www.sugarlovespa.ca
  34. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  35. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls ๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl gaga Serving The Queen ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Bunny- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  36. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  37. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy face young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐ŸŒนvery beautiful Cici Long leg ,amazing massage,nice body slide, Deep to relaxing,give you comfortable time๐Ÿ”ฅ
  38. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Luna, Cindy, Coco,Cici, Jenny, Amber, JPN Yui, Akino, Jasmine & Lucyโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  39. SpringGreen.:
    Today is here . Bunny miya,angel Lisa and tina are available today.These busty attractive girls provide a high level of service with a smile. call and text message 647 891 0699ask questions thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  41. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  42. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Wednesday), our amazing attendants are Cici ๐Ÿค—, Opal ๐Ÿค—, Carla ๐Ÿฅณ and Vicky ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  43. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami Vietnamese Girl Aiko She is Mixed Chinese/Japanese Girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Sasa friendly Vietnamese girl Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  44. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young new girl Sherry 28โ€™s with curve body and young flirty Mia 25โ€™ with curve body, pretty Ella and sweet GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 bomok appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  45. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Feifei๐Ÿ˜˜Our new Japanese beauty Feifei specializes in creating an intimate and deeply relaxing massage experience tailored to your desires. Her soft, skilled hands glide effortlessly, easing tension and awakening your senses
  46. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธMonika๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธJessicaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: HELEN, KIKI & CINDY. HELEN Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, LILY, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. LILY is a beautiful slim Thai lady, petite with C Cups & a nice medium sized ass. Her services will complete your day.
  50. Bencook:
    Suko have Youngest Beautiful Lily ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ Hellen Sky Lucky Michelle Emma ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿฅฐplease call 647 718 6182
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