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I have recently posted on towards other spas and had mentioned both SL and EM. A guy dm's me saying the ongoing arrogance of Renee. I do believe she was offering fs earlier this year, for whatever reasons, according to a friend. Some were saying a breakup may be the cause but he also said one time in the rear door room, both Renee and Lucy were there. Lucy said she had a rough night as she was laying on the bed and could hardly lift her head off pillow, like she was on a binge of some sort.
On another note, during opening hours for em, the door was locked. I am thinking , okay, receptionist is on bathroom break. Then saw Michelle pop out of a room and opened the door. She asked if I had an appt, I said no and she said sorry, am busy right now. I was never a regular for her but she was wearing knee high boots, mini and a loose pullover.
This was not too long ago and I was under the impression she did not do massage any longer. Like I said, I was never a Michelle type of guy but I have to say, that day she looked pretty hot. Is she doing massage for only special clients now?
Sounds like fetish-cosplay stuffโ€ฆ Renee does that 2โ€ฆ seen her all decked out in leather once
:sm

As for Renee, folks gonna believe what they wantโ€ฆ Im agnostic, but nobody said anything convincng 2 make me believeโ€ฆ no descrption of how it happened, what happened, was it cbj then cfsโ€ฆ or bbbjโ€ฆ what time, what rmโ€ฆ

Bcuz u provide 411, ppl can call u out, right?

So if I just say, yup, I did it ! Yup.

That was me. ๐Ÿ™‹โ€โ™‚๏ธ

U= convinced?

:lol
 
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I have to agree with you about these particular places. Those two owner's attitude and manners changed over the years.
My buddies also expressed same like these comments to me.
I was a regular customer for E&M years ( from the day they started). I am giving tips also in a good manner. I had a bad taste in my tongue, from last year, so that I stopped going over there. There is no shortage of places here in the GTA.
For KJ's support and bump higher most places due to other reasons. Selling his stuff and other things. That's nothing do with me. I am not against or for him.
Also the fking side effects of Covid , totally changed the people's state of mind. I think the service level went down so many places progressively.


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If it's the spa KJ is talking about, I have to agree with him here. It's new and clean. Yeah, any small place with only 2 girls might get disorganized from time to time (especially with new girls coming and going) but it's no big deal. Maybe your expectations are too high...you shouldn't be comparing these spas to legit clinics ๐Ÿ™‚. As I'm sure you know, most are run by ex-MPAs trying their best...

It does have a shitty set up for a new spa. They have one common shower, the front room is next to the front door and you have to walk past reception to get to the shower. It doesn't seem like any thought was put into the design.
 
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It does have a shitty set up for a new spa. They have one common shower, the front room is next to the front door and you have to walk past reception to get to the shower. It doesn't seem like any thought was put into the design.
Again, I didnโ€™t mention the spa by name. But it was definitely in a state of disarray, perhaps in mid cleaning or reorganizing but during open hours. And no one in sight for a few minutes, then totally surprised I was there. Not the best impression to make
 
Again, I didnโ€™t mention the spa by name. But it was definitely in a state of disarray, perhaps in mid cleaning or reorganizing but during open hours. And no one in sight for a few minutes, then totally surprised I was there. Not the best impression to make

I was more so commenting on OG's post on that particular spa.

Disorganization at any AMP is typically par for the course when the boss is not in.
 
The guys that have mentioned it are just posting on some general discussion type threads. They aren't 'reviews' per se so why would you expect a play-by-play? ๐Ÿ™‚


As for Renee, folks gonna believe what they wantโ€ฆ Im agnostic, but nobody said anything convincng 2 make me believeโ€ฆ no descrption of how it happened, what happened, was it cbj then cfsโ€ฆ or bbbjโ€ฆ what time, what rmโ€ฆ

Bcuz u provide 411, ppl can call u out, right?

So if I just say, yup, I did it ! Yup.

That was me. ๐Ÿ™‹โ€โ™‚๏ธ

U= convinced?

:lol
 
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It does have a shitty set up for a new spa. They have one common shower, the front room is next to the front door and you have to walk past reception to get to the shower. It doesn't seem like any thought was put into the design.

Not a big deal to me but to each their own. There's a room at the back right across from the shower. If you know you're gonna take a shower, just request that room...
 
I said it last year and some didn't agree. MPAs are going to be more TIP hungry once things open up.

They said MPAs would never do this because it will hurt them

Now I have seen and heard stories of MPAs asking for way more then the usual price for basic services.
 
It's pretty much the same as before. If they are expecting more, it's because they are doing more...but still the same market prices for the particular services that you are getting.


I said it last year and some didn't agree. MPAs are going to be more TIP hungry once things open up.

They said MPAs would never do this because it will hurt them

Now I have seen and heard stories of MPAs asking for way more then the usual price for basic services.
 
These Chinese MPAs should be grateful to be getting what they are being paid even with no or low tips. If they don't like it, they are welcome to go back to their trash home countries and make a fifth of what they are making in Canada. I also have no sympathy for Chinese that come into this country and not report their full income and not pay their fair share of taxes. Fuck these Chinese cunts
 
It's pretty much the same as before. If they are expecting more, it's because they are doing more...but still the same market prices for the particular services that you are getting.

I have noticed steady increases at holistic places though. FS used to be $100 on top of door fee, then it went to $120, some are $140 and up.

I don't know if it's covid related or simply girls trying to make maximum bank.
 
I have noticed steady increases at holistic places though. FS used to be $100 on top of door fee, then it went to $120, some are $140 and up.

I don't know if it's covid related or simply girls trying to make maximum bank.

Maybe...can't speak to the holistic places. But I've been to a lot of semi places and pretty much the same as before.

Having said that, there are a couple of places that have raised the room fee by $10 but most room fees are the same as before and tips are the same as before too...
 
I have noticed steady increases at holistic places though. FS used to be $100 on top of door fee, then it went to $120, some are $140 and up.

I don't know if it's covid related or simply girls trying to make maximum bank.

$140 is price point I have been hearing about.

I think it's just making bank because guys are willing to pay right now.
 
Maybe...can't speak to the holistic places. But I've been to a lot of semi places and pretty much the same as before.

Having said that, there are a couple of places that have raised the room fee by $10 but most room fees are the same as before and tips are the same as before too...

Semi places are a little different as things might take place that aren't typically on the menu.

My experience at semis has always been FS for $100 on top of door fee both pre and post covid. I have seen some girls asking for a premium since they are providing a service that is not supposed to be offered. For a hot younger girl the premium might be worth it, for a 40 plus, soft around the middle lady, not so much. These situations will always revolve around the girl and her mood and how much of a regular you are.
 
For a hot younger girl the premium might be worth it, for a 40 plus, soft around the middle lady, not so much. These situations will always revolve around the girl and her mood and how much of a regular you are.

Exactly.

and that goes for a youngish average at best girls as well.

they have been notorious for asking for more now.

Guys would be better off paying that price in a premium.
 
Semi places are a little different as things might take place that aren't typically on the menu.

My experience at semis has always been FS for $100 on top of door fee both pre and post covid. I have seen some girls asking for a premium since they are providing a service that is not supposed to be offered. For a hot younger girl the premium might be worth it, for a 40 plus, soft around the middle lady, not so much. These situations will always revolve around the girl and her mood and how much of a regular you are.

You're talking the highest level services at semi places which can be a bit of a gray area but I agree with the figure you quoted.

However, for basic services, I haven't experienced anything different compared to before.
 
If it's the spa KJ is talking about, I have to agree with him here. It's new and clean. Yeah, any small place with only 2 girls might get disorganized from time to time (especially with new girls coming and going) but it's no big deal. Maybe your expectations are too high...you shouldn't be comparing these spas to legit clinics ๐Ÿ™‚. As I'm sure you know, most are run by ex-MPAs trying their best...
your right about expectations..
 
These Chinese MPAs should be grateful to be getting what they are being paid even with no or low tips. If they don't like it, they are welcome to go back to their trash home countries and make a fifth of what they are making in Canada. I also have no sympathy for Chinese that come into this country and not report their full income and not pay their fair share of taxes. Fuck these Chinese cunts
This talk isnโ€™t acceptable.
Not in the least. So far this discussion has been pretty well behaved and respectful. Why did you have to come out and say this bigoted, racist nonsense?

Actually I donโ€™t think anyone needs to hear the answer to that. Please remove yourself from this constructive conversation and go do something else with your time.
 
The guys that have mentioned it are just posting on some general discussion type threads. They aren't 'reviews' per se so why would you expect a play-by-play? ๐Ÿ™‚
Donโ€™t actually need play-by-playโ€ฆ some Zamboni driver tells u he beat the Leafs ๐Ÿ’โ€ฆ

โ€ฆ if u havenโ€™t already heard, then u go, yeah right dude, right :crazy โ€ฆ but a bit of detail how it happened, then u believeโ€ฆ

Allotta zamboni drivers out there thoโ€ฆ only one beat the Budsโ€ฆ ;)
 
Lol, just admit it... you're Renee's hubby.

Donโ€™t actually need play-by-playโ€ฆ some Zamboni driver tells u he beat the Leafs ๐Ÿ’โ€ฆ

โ€ฆ if u havenโ€™t already heard, then u go, yeah right dude, right :crazy โ€ฆ but a bit of detail how it happened, then u believeโ€ฆ

Allotta zamboni drivers out there thoโ€ฆ only one beat the Budsโ€ฆ ;)
 
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    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  31. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ˜˜Table shower ใ€body scrub ใ€ Sea salt bath๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Young girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the
  32. Nu spring spa888:
    โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธsexy hot Germany๐ŸŒธViennese ๐ŸŒธ Korean girl working at๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’“ Nu spring spa โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  33. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–HAPPY Friday!!!๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville โœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†•36D Flora, Echo, Cici, Eva, Coco, JPN Yui, Happy, Cindy, Jasmine & Aaliyah โ€” pamper yourself๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss
  34. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ HELEN (3PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  35. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH (2AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  36. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LANA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (9PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  37. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  38. AliceSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 ladies waiting for you. Two Very Hot ladies (Qiqi & Summer) have returned to Alice spa today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (11:30am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services.
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10to11.ensuit shower room available ๐Ÿ…beautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone.amazing bj๐Ÿ…long hair vietname Amy is very good looking,slim body ,open maid, everything she can provide ๐ŸŒนbeautiful sexy face ,big big boob,strong massage,happy the end,very friendly ,really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน
  40. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ˜˜Table shower ใ€body scrub ใ€ Sea salt bath๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ 3 girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mimi & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mimi is a nice slim lady with a big bottom, & great oral skills to take you to paradise. Sasa is a slim & sweet Korean lady, about 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  43. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธSamyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  44. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธCindy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, LINA & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: KELLY, LINDA, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž KELLY is a young Singaporean lady, slim with C Cups & liberal skills. LINDA is a beautiful young Asian mix girl, 60Kgs with big D Cup boobs with pointy nipples, very friendly, bbbj and many services. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE
  47. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Taiwanese Victoria slime 26โ€™s open mind and young flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open mind,young popular Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. EMSpa_schedule:
    Hey! Where have you been? Today (Friday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Carla ๏ธ, Cici ๐Ÿฅฐ, Opal ๐Ÿฅฐ and Vicky ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  50. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Amber๐Ÿ˜Our newest girl at Annie Spa directly from Hong Kong! Amber is a sexy blend of pleasure and sensuality leaving you wanting more of her erotic services. Amber is a tall slim busty girl with natural 34C breasts
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