Home Care Advice for insomnia sufferers?

Misfit_101

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Hi There,

I have a client that suffers from insomnia, she is in her late 50's and she is constantly on the go from morning til bedtime. I have already tried adversing her to wind down a bit before retiring to bed, like reading ortaking a relaxing bath with lavender added andcandles etc,but I think this is a lifetimehabbit. She has a problem getting off to sleep and when se does finally drop off she wakes again a couple of hours later, and thisgoes on through the night. I also advised that she cut down on tea and coffee, or at least try decaf.
When my client has a massage once a week she always sleeps so much better that night. I would like to be able to offer her some good home care advice for insomnia, has anybody got any suggestions?
 
Seems like you have done your best. Has she taken up any of your advice?
Maybe as she has therapy with you, she may not be adverse to seeking hypnotherapy.
Everyone's different, does she want to change (yet)?
Good luck.
 
Does she feel unwell from the lack of sleep? I am lucky if I get four hours straight - I go to bed around 11.30pm, and invariably wake up at 3.30 - sometimes wide awake, so much so I get up. It is arare day that Ilast beyond 5.30am.

I do notfeelunwell, and have a good level of energy until about 7pm, when I sit down to watch the box. I don't drink coffee after 11 in the morning, and no tea after 6pm - 'builders' or herbal- just water.

I love it in the summer months, as I can take the dog for a walk. I was once stopped by a concerned policeman at 4am, out on his rounds, asking if I was OK - think he thought I was up to no good! If he sees me nowadays, he just waves and smiles and carries on driving past!!

I have always been like this, since childhood, and am 51 now. Old age should be interesting as you are supposed to need less sleep!

If your client is generally fit and healthy, then I don't think she should worry herself too much about it. Presume she has tried all the usual things like I have:
No tea/coffee after 6pm
Warm bath with sedative oils before bed
Warm milk based drink
No TV in the bedroom
Read an 'uncomplicated' book
Abdominal breathing techniques (with the lights switched off)
Lettuce with evening meals (once suggested to me by a TCM doctor - something in the lettuce that induces relaxation)

I tried them all, but it didn't make any difference, so have just concluded it is 'me', so I make the most of the few quiet hours I have in the early mornings - sometimes you find me on here!
 
one of my clients liked to go to bed with a cup of peppermint tea!
the aromatherapy oil is listed as being contra indicated for insomniacs,
she has been sleeping better since cutting out the peppermint tea and having chamomile instead

HG
 
Thank you for all your replies. My client says she doesnt particularly feel unwell through lack of sleep, but does feel really tired alot of the time, and finds it frustrating during the night when she cant sleep. She doesnt like to get up as she says she would start pottering about and wake other members of her family. Having the holistic approach with my massage therapy I want to be able to help by offering some good homecare advice, as this would be quite rewarding not only to clients but for me too.

Hi jabbathehut! From what you have said about your lack sleep its seems for you it has its good points, as when you say its nice in the summer months when you cango for an early morning walk with the dog, it must bevery peaceful i would imagine. You did make me giggle about bumping into a police man lol. Thank you for some of your tips, and lettuce eh? I never knew that!! I will certainly mention that to her. Also hypnotherapy is a consideration too, thanks mysterious me.

I guess for some people it doesnt cause any problems, I personally love my sleep and always slept very well, and if i dont get a good nights sleep it leaves me feeling prettygrotty for the rest of the day.
 
With my own experience i find their are two major causes to insomnia.

1) alcohol. even if its only a glass of wine with dinner each night it can seriously affect soem peoples sleep. majority of people think they dont drink too much but even small amounts may be too much for them and their liver at night.

2) somethign on their mind/worries. is this person worrying about anything? no matter how minor this is what might be keeping her awake at night.


you can drink peppermint tea or hot milk beofre bed till the cows come home and soak your pillow in lavender untill you unconcious, but if the two above arent addresses then the insomnia will continue, IMO.

you have to realise that insomnia is generally waking up after a short while and not beign able to get back to sleep, they usually don't have a problem getting to sleep in the first place. so whats waking them up?


It can be very beneficial when they wake to go eat or drink soemthing heavy to release the sleep enducing chemicals. weetabix is a good one, also warm milk.
 
Such a difficult topic when so many things can be affect the insomnia. Mine is sporadic, mostly due to the menopause (isn't everything?). When I am on an early shift at work, up by 0445, I find I am sleeping fitfully and then keep waking up also, so am very tired when I do get up. I am quite lucky in that I try and give myself reiki last thing at night and usually fall asleep with my hand on the heart chakra. This doesn't stop me waking in the night. I don't drink tea or coffee so can't blame that, alcohol not too often as my job is safety critical. When I went through a three month period of little sleep each nightit stressed it stressed me greatly.Then realised it was the peri-menopause and I stopped worrying about not sleeping! Now I just acknowledge the inability to sleep and realise it's just 'me' for now.
 
Hi All,
I am 41 and been a poor sleeper for over 20 years due to shoulder discomfort, any way I know it is habitual, I once had sleeping tablets for a week and slept well for over 2 months( not continuous.......) then woke up one night thinking about someting that must have been important at the time>>>> then slept poorly for months. Last month , one of my clients said I looked tired and she could help with accupuncture so we swapped a few sessions, on the second session she detected a blockage somewhere in the neck region, stabbed me with a big needle, no pain but within 5 seconds i was fast asleep, she left me for 30 mins, it was like having a general aneasthetic(spelling?). I slept well for most of last month, until one of my kids woke me in the middle of the night feeling unwell, now I dont sleep again.
My mind is always active and when I awaken, I am racing thoughts in my head and have to get up! I dont drink tea,coffee, fizzy pop, in fact I only drink water and very weak squash. At about 5 in the evening when I am listening to the kids read school books I can hardly keep my eyes open I feel so tired.
I have suggested that they read me a bedtime story, but that didnt go down well! best of luck with the sleep thing anyway whatever you decide to try.
regards
Gaz
 
Hello Misfit,
I can see that you really taking care of her much, and decaf is a better suggestion also. I got also a friend who only have decaf no matter how she want the other, its for her good. Tho still, I don't get why she still stay up so late! Atleast, when she started to have decaf she said there's still a good effect!
 
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    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH (2AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  35. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LANA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (9PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  36. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  37. AliceSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 ladies waiting for you. Two Very Hot ladies (Qiqi & Summer) have returned to Alice spa today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (11:30am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services.
  38. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10to11.ensuit shower room available ๐Ÿ…beautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone.amazing bj๐Ÿ…long hair vietname Amy is very good looking,slim body ,open maid, everything she can provide ๐ŸŒนbeautiful sexy face ,big big boob,strong massage,happy the end,very friendly ,really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน
  39. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ˜˜Table shower ใ€body scrub ใ€ Sea salt bath๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ 3 girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  41. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mimi & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mimi is a nice slim lady with a big bottom, & great oral skills to take you to paradise. Sasa is a slim & sweet Korean lady, about 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  42. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธSamyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  43. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธCindy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, LINA & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  45. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: KELLY, LINDA, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž KELLY is a young Singaporean lady, slim with C Cups & liberal skills. LINDA is a beautiful young Asian mix girl, 60Kgs with big D Cup boobs with pointy nipples, very friendly, bbbj and many services. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE
  46. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Taiwanese Victoria slime 26โ€™s open mind and young flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open mind,young popular Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. EMSpa_schedule:
    Hey! Where have you been? Today (Friday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Carla ๏ธ, Cici ๐Ÿฅฐ, Opal ๐Ÿฅฐ and Vicky ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  49. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Amber๐Ÿ˜Our newest girl at Annie Spa directly from Hong Kong! Amber is a sexy blend of pleasure and sensuality leaving you wanting more of her erotic services. Amber is a tall slim busty girl with natural 34C breasts
  50. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Ivy Singapore Sweetheart Girl With Amazing Personality Jessica Pretty Girl with amazing personality and super easy to get along with. Sasa friendly Vietnamese Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-446-0886
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