Question Can someone explain the difference between Semi Legit and Semi Hollistic spas

What are your top spa recommendations for BBBJ and DATY? A separate "thank you" for any recommendations of spas where girls offer CFS.
As @OG_funguy noted, this question takes the thread in another direction. Why not start a separate thread with your question?
 
What are your top spa recommendations for BBBJ and DATY? A separate "thank you" for any recommendations of spas where girls offer CFS.
There are so many spas these days . It is assumed that most services will occur either right of the bat or eventually.
There are so many spas posting on here daily with no reviews, yet they are getting regular customers doing the services that you mentioned or even more which is why they continue to advertise.
Top spa recommendation are entirely subject.
The sex trade is very deep and what you see posted on here is just the heavily abridged version of the tip of the iceberg for which you have to be reasonable and flexible to read between the lines.
 
You will eventually get FS with any semi legit and definitely with semi holistic ladies that provides PS with enough repeat. Itโ€™s just cost you more for the extra service. Theyโ€™re using PS to select the right clientele. Itโ€™s part of their business tricks. ๐Ÿ˜‰ Heck itโ€™s easier to get FS than DFK haha ๐Ÿ˜‚
SO true!! haha
 
Seriously though, kissing is not that big a deal.

I have kissed strangers at office parties, on the subway, at City Hall, at Xmas & NY parties, plus as a kid even, put out the lights and some girl has her tongue down your throat.

Itโ€™s fun but itโ€™s not like BBFS.

Oral cavity has the 2nd most germs, next to the gut, and I'm not making out with anyone's gut.

We're talking DFK too, not some lame ass LFK.
 
Oral cavity has the 2nd most germs, next to the gut, and I'm not making out with anyone's gut.

We're talking DFK too, not some lame ass LFK.
Itโ€™s very difficult hobbying at all if you worry about germs.

I wanted to avoid mouth to mouth contact with these girls, but then one day this cute short Asian girl just looked me in the eye, came right up to my face and did the most relaxed natural kissing.

I was converted!

I got an instant boner even days later just remembering.
 
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Itโ€™s very difficult hobbying at all if you worry about germs.

I wanted to avoid mouth to mouth contact with these girls, but then one day this cute short Asian girl just looked me in the eye, snapped her fingers & did a sexy little shimmy, then came right up to my face and did the most relaxed natural kissing.

I was converted!

I got an instant boner even days later just remembering.
Oh it's not the germs I'm worried about, it's the next level up.

I think with my brain, not my dick, at least 95% of the time.
 
Oh it's not the germs I'm worried about, it's the next level up.

I think with my brain, not my dick, at least 95% of the time.
Definitely Iโ€™m not there yet. My dick takes control frequently!
 
If it is not the germs, then I am confused.

Level up? Like a video game?

Germs is an umbrella statement for a subset of specific categories - in there is bacteria and viruses. Bacteria and viruses is next level up, infections, STDs.

It would be like saying you're afraid of the weather. No you're not afraid of the weather, you're afraid of lightning storms and getting your ass zapped.
 
Germs is an umbrella statement for a subset of specific categories - in there is bacteria and viruses. Bacteria and viruses is next level up, infections, STDs.

It would be like saying you're afraid of the weather. No you're not afraid of the weather, you're afraid of lightning storms and getting your ass zapped.
Arenโ€™t all infections either bacterial or viral? Whatโ€™s the concern?
 
Can someone please explain the difference between a Semi Legit spa and a Semi Hollistic spa in terms of services. I always used to think bodyslides were common at semi legits but seen in some other threads that when girls do BS or any sort of nude services it makes it semi hollistic.

Are there actually places that only offer massage and fully clothed HJ and nothing else?
If it's holistic, full nudity is guaranteed. And from there you can negotiate bodyslides, DATY, Greek or Russian finish, etc

Semi legit, only HJ is guaranteed, and if lucky you may get some tits and pussy play. Then again within semi legit places you may have both restrictive and liberal chicks. At two particular semi legit places, without divulging name of location or chick, I managed to get a BBBJ CIM. Good luck. Sorry if this doesn't make sense. Cuz after a decade of hobbying I'm still figuring things out
 
If it's holistic, full nudity is guaranteed. And from there you can negotiate bodyslides, DATY, Greek or Russian finish, etc

Semi legit, only HJ is guaranteed, and if lucky you may get some tits and pussy play. Then again within semi legit places you may have both restrictive and liberal chicks. At two particular semi legit places, without divulging name of location or chick, I managed to get a BBBJ CIM. Good luck. Sorry if this doesn't make sense. Cuz after a decade of hobbying I'm still figuring things out
There is something in between these days btw ,
Itโ€™s called semi holistic where you can get up to bodyslides and over ( anything can happen in the room ) some places like Bellagio, Acewell, Aqua bay , suko , sentosa , lavender ,GRW , GW , ocean motion , Ellegance ( not been in a while after management changed I have been to more frequently this year so far ..
 
There are so many spas these days . It is assumed that most services will occur either right of the bat or eventually.
There are so many spas posting on here daily with no reviews, yet they are getting regular customers doing the services that you mentioned or even more which is why they continue to advertise.
Top spa recommendation are entirely subject.
The sex trade is very deep and what you see posted on here is just the heavily abridged version of the tip of the iceberg for which you have to be reasonable and flexible to read between the lines.
Written like a true veteran
 
If it's holistic, full nudity is guaranteed. And from there you can negotiate bodyslides, DATY, Greek or Russian finish, etc

Semi legit, only HJ is guaranteed, and if lucky you may get some tits and pussy play. Then again within semi legit places you may have both restrictive and liberal chicks. At two particular semi legit places, without divulging name of location or chick, I managed to get a BBBJ CIM. Good luck. Sorry if this doesn't make sense. Cuz after a decade of hobbying I'm still figuring things out
Letโ€™s simplify thisโ€ฆ

Holistic = full service typically with clock watchers with occasional, but not normal exceptions (if you find the exception enjoy the hell out of it)

Semi-Holistic = later in life ladies who donโ€™t want to identify as sex workers so they stay within some weird boundaries while slippinโ€™ and slidinโ€™

Semi-Legit = typically later in life massage oriented ladies who are not expected to anything extreme but many do
 
If it's holistic, full nudity is guaranteed. And from there you can negotiate bodyslides, DATY, Greek or Russian finish, etc

Semi legit, only HJ is guaranteed, and if lucky you may get some tits and pussy play. Then again within semi legit places you may have both restrictive and liberal chicks. At two particular semi legit places, without divulging name of location or chick, I managed to get a BBBJ CIM. Good luck. Sorry if this doesn't make sense. Cuz after a decade of hobbying I'm still figuring things out
Hahaha

Didn't you state in one thread you only go to 2 semi legit spas, well known spas

Kinda just gave it away
 
Letโ€™s simplify thisโ€ฆ

Holistic = full service typically with clock watchers with occasional, but not normal exceptions (if you find the exception enjoy the hell out of it)

Semi-Holistic = later in life ladies who donโ€™t want to identify as sex workers so they stay within some weird boundaries while slippinโ€™ and slidinโ€™

Semi-Legit = typically later in life massage oriented ladies who are not expected to anything extreme but many do
There are a lot of โ€œlatter in life ladiesโ€ flying under the radar, but there are also some young ladies who also who do not want to admit that they are actually in the sex trade as do the white knights that $ervicecthem?
 
Letโ€™s simplify thisโ€ฆ

Holistic = full service typically with clock watchers with occasional, but not normal exceptions (if you find the exception enjoy the hell out of it)

Semi-Holistic = later in life ladies who donโ€™t want to identify as sex workers so they stay within some weird boundaries while slippinโ€™ and slidinโ€™

Semi-Legit = typically later in life massage oriented ladies who are not expected to anything extreme but many do
Disagree. :no

Many young gals ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿ‘งโ€๐Ÿ‘ง get into semi-legit biz f/ non-SW backgroundโ€ฆ. Right now, Bellagio has 2 young girls, Lena & Marilyn, just learning the trade, & generally just do hjs without nudity. Roll the clock backโ€ฆ 2017โ€ฆ & Lucy herself = legit msg girl trying out semilegit โ€ฆ

Many holistic spas got some pretty old gals working there 2โ€ฆ ๐Ÿ˜‰

While some mpas age ๐Ÿ‘ต outta holistic into semilegit, thatโ€™s certainly not only career pathโ€ฆ some semilegits = young girls w msg backgroundโ€ฆ or no xxxperience @ allโ€ฆ that think giving a guy an HE = no big dealโ€ฆ in fact, mebbe fun ๐Ÿ˜

โ€ฆ& many semilegit & semiholistic girls reveal full menu w repeat visitsโ€ฆ even gals who came f/ retail & nvr did SW B4โ€ฆ

Im shur Iโ€™m not only guy whoโ€™s watched my dick ๐Ÿ† disappear into the ๐Ÿ‘„ mouth of an apparently inxxperienced mpa โ€ฆ xxxperienced girls no 2 do bbbj :banana b4 u cover the dick in oil! o_O

โ€ฆ ability 2do bjs ofc doesnโ€™t require a special licenseโ€ฆ
 
It's more about the identity of the spa (and not the girls per se), here it is in simple terms. The caveat being that anything can happen behind closed doors whether it's semi-legit, semi-holistic or whatever...

Semi-legit - a spa that still prides itself in giving a good massage but of course happy endings are provided. Usually the bosses are okay with some mileage such as girls taking off parts of their clothes. Some examples are JR, Suko, Lotus, E&M...

Semi-holistic - a spa that still requires their girls to be able to do a decent massage but bosses are a bit more lenient in terms of mileage and services such as BS are okay. Some examples are SL, Acewell, BN, Aqua Bay, Lavender...

Holistic - full service spa, very little focus on the massage
 
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    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  35. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Monday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Top Star Jenny, ๐Ÿ†• Elsa, Coco, Eva, Cindy, Kelly, Amber, Busty Echo, Yoyo, JPN Yui & Juliet โ€” ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Hit up 647-695-6354๐Ÿค™ or text to ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169 โœจ160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, Richmond Hill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  36. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  37. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair mina smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience โค๏ธvery sexy Vietnamese girl Amy,open maid,amazing the end,really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿฅคall awesome massage ๐Ÿ‘๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSamy๐ŸŒธPriya๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธIvy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. DareDevil:
    366 ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New young RMT student Helen, Fun girl Apple, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ APPLE AND HELEN๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  40. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธCarly๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธKellyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  41. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (2PM), ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (8PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JESSIE ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  42. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  43. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY, ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ NANCY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  44. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl Hitti very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask question :heart4 :heart4 :heart4
  45. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  46. AliceSpa:
    3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : CLOUDIA (12pm-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. SKY (10:30am-9pm): is Part time girl from Indonesia, petite 5'2", B Cup, 100 Lbs, long black hair, new to the biz.Young, fresh/cute, pretty, submissive, slim tiny waist, fair skin. bbbj
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services...
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, FIONA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. CINDY is slim
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CHRISTINA, MIA, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open mind
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and flirty Ivy 36DD with curly body 30โ€™s open mind, young sweet popular Michelle 26โ€™s with curve body open mind and cute GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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