Question Can someone explain the difference between Semi Legit and Semi Hollistic spas

What are your top spa recommendations for BBBJ and DATY? A separate "thank you" for any recommendations of spas where girls offer CFS.
As @OG_funguy noted, this question takes the thread in another direction. Why not start a separate thread with your question?
 
What are your top spa recommendations for BBBJ and DATY? A separate "thank you" for any recommendations of spas where girls offer CFS.
There are so many spas these days . It is assumed that most services will occur either right of the bat or eventually.
There are so many spas posting on here daily with no reviews, yet they are getting regular customers doing the services that you mentioned or even more which is why they continue to advertise.
Top spa recommendation are entirely subject.
The sex trade is very deep and what you see posted on here is just the heavily abridged version of the tip of the iceberg for which you have to be reasonable and flexible to read between the lines.
 
You will eventually get FS with any semi legit and definitely with semi holistic ladies that provides PS with enough repeat. Itโ€™s just cost you more for the extra service. Theyโ€™re using PS to select the right clientele. Itโ€™s part of their business tricks. ๐Ÿ˜‰ Heck itโ€™s easier to get FS than DFK haha ๐Ÿ˜‚
SO true!! haha
 
Seriously though, kissing is not that big a deal.

I have kissed strangers at office parties, on the subway, at City Hall, at Xmas & NY parties, plus as a kid even, put out the lights and some girl has her tongue down your throat.

Itโ€™s fun but itโ€™s not like BBFS.

Oral cavity has the 2nd most germs, next to the gut, and I'm not making out with anyone's gut.

We're talking DFK too, not some lame ass LFK.
 
Oral cavity has the 2nd most germs, next to the gut, and I'm not making out with anyone's gut.

We're talking DFK too, not some lame ass LFK.
Itโ€™s very difficult hobbying at all if you worry about germs.

I wanted to avoid mouth to mouth contact with these girls, but then one day this cute short Asian girl just looked me in the eye, came right up to my face and did the most relaxed natural kissing.

I was converted!

I got an instant boner even days later just remembering.
 
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Itโ€™s very difficult hobbying at all if you worry about germs.

I wanted to avoid mouth to mouth contact with these girls, but then one day this cute short Asian girl just looked me in the eye, snapped her fingers & did a sexy little shimmy, then came right up to my face and did the most relaxed natural kissing.

I was converted!

I got an instant boner even days later just remembering.
Oh it's not the germs I'm worried about, it's the next level up.

I think with my brain, not my dick, at least 95% of the time.
 
Oh it's not the germs I'm worried about, it's the next level up.

I think with my brain, not my dick, at least 95% of the time.
Definitely Iโ€™m not there yet. My dick takes control frequently!
 
If it is not the germs, then I am confused.

Level up? Like a video game?

Germs is an umbrella statement for a subset of specific categories - in there is bacteria and viruses. Bacteria and viruses is next level up, infections, STDs.

It would be like saying you're afraid of the weather. No you're not afraid of the weather, you're afraid of lightning storms and getting your ass zapped.
 
Germs is an umbrella statement for a subset of specific categories - in there is bacteria and viruses. Bacteria and viruses is next level up, infections, STDs.

It would be like saying you're afraid of the weather. No you're not afraid of the weather, you're afraid of lightning storms and getting your ass zapped.
Arenโ€™t all infections either bacterial or viral? Whatโ€™s the concern?
 
Can someone please explain the difference between a Semi Legit spa and a Semi Hollistic spa in terms of services. I always used to think bodyslides were common at semi legits but seen in some other threads that when girls do BS or any sort of nude services it makes it semi hollistic.

Are there actually places that only offer massage and fully clothed HJ and nothing else?
If it's holistic, full nudity is guaranteed. And from there you can negotiate bodyslides, DATY, Greek or Russian finish, etc

Semi legit, only HJ is guaranteed, and if lucky you may get some tits and pussy play. Then again within semi legit places you may have both restrictive and liberal chicks. At two particular semi legit places, without divulging name of location or chick, I managed to get a BBBJ CIM. Good luck. Sorry if this doesn't make sense. Cuz after a decade of hobbying I'm still figuring things out
 
If it's holistic, full nudity is guaranteed. And from there you can negotiate bodyslides, DATY, Greek or Russian finish, etc

Semi legit, only HJ is guaranteed, and if lucky you may get some tits and pussy play. Then again within semi legit places you may have both restrictive and liberal chicks. At two particular semi legit places, without divulging name of location or chick, I managed to get a BBBJ CIM. Good luck. Sorry if this doesn't make sense. Cuz after a decade of hobbying I'm still figuring things out
There is something in between these days btw ,
Itโ€™s called semi holistic where you can get up to bodyslides and over ( anything can happen in the room ) some places like Bellagio, Acewell, Aqua bay , suko , sentosa , lavender ,GRW , GW , ocean motion , Ellegance ( not been in a while after management changed I have been to more frequently this year so far ..
 
There are so many spas these days . It is assumed that most services will occur either right of the bat or eventually.
There are so many spas posting on here daily with no reviews, yet they are getting regular customers doing the services that you mentioned or even more which is why they continue to advertise.
Top spa recommendation are entirely subject.
The sex trade is very deep and what you see posted on here is just the heavily abridged version of the tip of the iceberg for which you have to be reasonable and flexible to read between the lines.
Written like a true veteran
 
If it's holistic, full nudity is guaranteed. And from there you can negotiate bodyslides, DATY, Greek or Russian finish, etc

Semi legit, only HJ is guaranteed, and if lucky you may get some tits and pussy play. Then again within semi legit places you may have both restrictive and liberal chicks. At two particular semi legit places, without divulging name of location or chick, I managed to get a BBBJ CIM. Good luck. Sorry if this doesn't make sense. Cuz after a decade of hobbying I'm still figuring things out
Letโ€™s simplify thisโ€ฆ

Holistic = full service typically with clock watchers with occasional, but not normal exceptions (if you find the exception enjoy the hell out of it)

Semi-Holistic = later in life ladies who donโ€™t want to identify as sex workers so they stay within some weird boundaries while slippinโ€™ and slidinโ€™

Semi-Legit = typically later in life massage oriented ladies who are not expected to anything extreme but many do
 
If it's holistic, full nudity is guaranteed. And from there you can negotiate bodyslides, DATY, Greek or Russian finish, etc

Semi legit, only HJ is guaranteed, and if lucky you may get some tits and pussy play. Then again within semi legit places you may have both restrictive and liberal chicks. At two particular semi legit places, without divulging name of location or chick, I managed to get a BBBJ CIM. Good luck. Sorry if this doesn't make sense. Cuz after a decade of hobbying I'm still figuring things out
Hahaha

Didn't you state in one thread you only go to 2 semi legit spas, well known spas

Kinda just gave it away
 
Letโ€™s simplify thisโ€ฆ

Holistic = full service typically with clock watchers with occasional, but not normal exceptions (if you find the exception enjoy the hell out of it)

Semi-Holistic = later in life ladies who donโ€™t want to identify as sex workers so they stay within some weird boundaries while slippinโ€™ and slidinโ€™

Semi-Legit = typically later in life massage oriented ladies who are not expected to anything extreme but many do
There are a lot of โ€œlatter in life ladiesโ€ flying under the radar, but there are also some young ladies who also who do not want to admit that they are actually in the sex trade as do the white knights that $ervicecthem?
 
Letโ€™s simplify thisโ€ฆ

Holistic = full service typically with clock watchers with occasional, but not normal exceptions (if you find the exception enjoy the hell out of it)

Semi-Holistic = later in life ladies who donโ€™t want to identify as sex workers so they stay within some weird boundaries while slippinโ€™ and slidinโ€™

Semi-Legit = typically later in life massage oriented ladies who are not expected to anything extreme but many do
Disagree. :no

Many young gals ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿ‘งโ€๐Ÿ‘ง get into semi-legit biz f/ non-SW backgroundโ€ฆ. Right now, Bellagio has 2 young girls, Lena & Marilyn, just learning the trade, & generally just do hjs without nudity. Roll the clock backโ€ฆ 2017โ€ฆ & Lucy herself = legit msg girl trying out semilegit โ€ฆ

Many holistic spas got some pretty old gals working there 2โ€ฆ ๐Ÿ˜‰

While some mpas age ๐Ÿ‘ต outta holistic into semilegit, thatโ€™s certainly not only career pathโ€ฆ some semilegits = young girls w msg backgroundโ€ฆ or no xxxperience @ allโ€ฆ that think giving a guy an HE = no big dealโ€ฆ in fact, mebbe fun ๐Ÿ˜

โ€ฆ& many semilegit & semiholistic girls reveal full menu w repeat visitsโ€ฆ even gals who came f/ retail & nvr did SW B4โ€ฆ

Im shur Iโ€™m not only guy whoโ€™s watched my dick ๐Ÿ† disappear into the ๐Ÿ‘„ mouth of an apparently inxxperienced mpa โ€ฆ xxxperienced girls no 2 do bbbj :banana b4 u cover the dick in oil! o_O

โ€ฆ ability 2do bjs ofc doesnโ€™t require a special licenseโ€ฆ
 
It's more about the identity of the spa (and not the girls per se), here it is in simple terms. The caveat being that anything can happen behind closed doors whether it's semi-legit, semi-holistic or whatever...

Semi-legit - a spa that still prides itself in giving a good massage but of course happy endings are provided. Usually the bosses are okay with some mileage such as girls taking off parts of their clothes. Some examples are JR, Suko, Lotus, E&M...

Semi-holistic - a spa that still requires their girls to be able to do a decent massage but bosses are a bit more lenient in terms of mileage and services such as BS are okay. Some examples are SL, Acewell, BN, Aqua Bay, Lavender...

Holistic - full service spa, very little focus on the massage
 
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    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธMonikaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  33. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Luna, Cindy, Coco,Cici, Jenny, Amber, JPN Yui, Akino, Jasmine & Lucyโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  34. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  35. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl gaga Serving The Queen ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Bunny- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  36. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  37. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, PAOLA, MALIYA, MONIKA, AMANDA, ASHA, JAZMINE, PREETI, ANGELINA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  38. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy face young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐ŸŒนvery nice new girl CiCi, amazing the end,give you warm time,must try๐ŸŒน๐Ÿฅค
  40. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (11am-8pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. DORIS (12pm-9pm): from Taiwan, is young & petite with loing thick black hair, 105 Lbs
  41. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Sexy Petite Korean๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ทGirl Eva working with Sweet Beautiful Japanese New Cummer to Canada Feifei ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต and Sensual Pleasing Busty Coco๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณtoday๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Call or text ๐Ÿ“ฒ647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879๐Ÿ“ฒ
  42. EMSpa_schedule:
    Hey! Where have you been? Today (Wednesday), our amazing attendants are Carla โ€, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Opal ๐Ÿคฉ, Sandy ๐Ÿค— and Yoyo ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, KIKI & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is slim & incredibly sexy
  45. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: SARAH, SUSAN, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set of services to delight you. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy Latina girl, 5'4" & 116 Lbs, with nice boobs and ass, very versatile services.
  46. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Top notch line up with superstars like sunny , gabby , elena , kiki , Ella and cindy. At top notch wellness
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Taiwanese Victoria slime 26โ€™s and young flirty Mia 25โ€™s with curly body , pretty Ella and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We had two girls today, Niko and Kiki. They were both young, pretty and cute. The massage and back massage were great.
  49. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  50. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Young RMT Student Helen, Sexy Busty Apple, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ HELEN AND APPLE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
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