Question Can someone explain the difference between Semi Legit and Semi Hollistic spas

What are your top spa recommendations for BBBJ and DATY? A separate "thank you" for any recommendations of spas where girls offer CFS.
As @OG_funguy noted, this question takes the thread in another direction. Why not start a separate thread with your question?
 
What are your top spa recommendations for BBBJ and DATY? A separate "thank you" for any recommendations of spas where girls offer CFS.
There are so many spas these days . It is assumed that most services will occur either right of the bat or eventually.
There are so many spas posting on here daily with no reviews, yet they are getting regular customers doing the services that you mentioned or even more which is why they continue to advertise.
Top spa recommendation are entirely subject.
The sex trade is very deep and what you see posted on here is just the heavily abridged version of the tip of the iceberg for which you have to be reasonable and flexible to read between the lines.
 
You will eventually get FS with any semi legit and definitely with semi holistic ladies that provides PS with enough repeat. Itโ€™s just cost you more for the extra service. Theyโ€™re using PS to select the right clientele. Itโ€™s part of their business tricks. ๐Ÿ˜‰ Heck itโ€™s easier to get FS than DFK haha ๐Ÿ˜‚
SO true!! haha
 
Seriously though, kissing is not that big a deal.

I have kissed strangers at office parties, on the subway, at City Hall, at Xmas & NY parties, plus as a kid even, put out the lights and some girl has her tongue down your throat.

Itโ€™s fun but itโ€™s not like BBFS.

Oral cavity has the 2nd most germs, next to the gut, and I'm not making out with anyone's gut.

We're talking DFK too, not some lame ass LFK.
 
Oral cavity has the 2nd most germs, next to the gut, and I'm not making out with anyone's gut.

We're talking DFK too, not some lame ass LFK.
Itโ€™s very difficult hobbying at all if you worry about germs.

I wanted to avoid mouth to mouth contact with these girls, but then one day this cute short Asian girl just looked me in the eye, came right up to my face and did the most relaxed natural kissing.

I was converted!

I got an instant boner even days later just remembering.
 
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Itโ€™s very difficult hobbying at all if you worry about germs.

I wanted to avoid mouth to mouth contact with these girls, but then one day this cute short Asian girl just looked me in the eye, snapped her fingers & did a sexy little shimmy, then came right up to my face and did the most relaxed natural kissing.

I was converted!

I got an instant boner even days later just remembering.
Oh it's not the germs I'm worried about, it's the next level up.

I think with my brain, not my dick, at least 95% of the time.
 
Oh it's not the germs I'm worried about, it's the next level up.

I think with my brain, not my dick, at least 95% of the time.
Definitely Iโ€™m not there yet. My dick takes control frequently!
 
If it is not the germs, then I am confused.

Level up? Like a video game?

Germs is an umbrella statement for a subset of specific categories - in there is bacteria and viruses. Bacteria and viruses is next level up, infections, STDs.

It would be like saying you're afraid of the weather. No you're not afraid of the weather, you're afraid of lightning storms and getting your ass zapped.
 
Germs is an umbrella statement for a subset of specific categories - in there is bacteria and viruses. Bacteria and viruses is next level up, infections, STDs.

It would be like saying you're afraid of the weather. No you're not afraid of the weather, you're afraid of lightning storms and getting your ass zapped.
Arenโ€™t all infections either bacterial or viral? Whatโ€™s the concern?
 
Can someone please explain the difference between a Semi Legit spa and a Semi Hollistic spa in terms of services. I always used to think bodyslides were common at semi legits but seen in some other threads that when girls do BS or any sort of nude services it makes it semi hollistic.

Are there actually places that only offer massage and fully clothed HJ and nothing else?
If it's holistic, full nudity is guaranteed. And from there you can negotiate bodyslides, DATY, Greek or Russian finish, etc

Semi legit, only HJ is guaranteed, and if lucky you may get some tits and pussy play. Then again within semi legit places you may have both restrictive and liberal chicks. At two particular semi legit places, without divulging name of location or chick, I managed to get a BBBJ CIM. Good luck. Sorry if this doesn't make sense. Cuz after a decade of hobbying I'm still figuring things out
 
If it's holistic, full nudity is guaranteed. And from there you can negotiate bodyslides, DATY, Greek or Russian finish, etc

Semi legit, only HJ is guaranteed, and if lucky you may get some tits and pussy play. Then again within semi legit places you may have both restrictive and liberal chicks. At two particular semi legit places, without divulging name of location or chick, I managed to get a BBBJ CIM. Good luck. Sorry if this doesn't make sense. Cuz after a decade of hobbying I'm still figuring things out
There is something in between these days btw ,
Itโ€™s called semi holistic where you can get up to bodyslides and over ( anything can happen in the room ) some places like Bellagio, Acewell, Aqua bay , suko , sentosa , lavender ,GRW , GW , ocean motion , Ellegance ( not been in a while after management changed I have been to more frequently this year so far ..
 
There are so many spas these days . It is assumed that most services will occur either right of the bat or eventually.
There are so many spas posting on here daily with no reviews, yet they are getting regular customers doing the services that you mentioned or even more which is why they continue to advertise.
Top spa recommendation are entirely subject.
The sex trade is very deep and what you see posted on here is just the heavily abridged version of the tip of the iceberg for which you have to be reasonable and flexible to read between the lines.
Written like a true veteran
 
If it's holistic, full nudity is guaranteed. And from there you can negotiate bodyslides, DATY, Greek or Russian finish, etc

Semi legit, only HJ is guaranteed, and if lucky you may get some tits and pussy play. Then again within semi legit places you may have both restrictive and liberal chicks. At two particular semi legit places, without divulging name of location or chick, I managed to get a BBBJ CIM. Good luck. Sorry if this doesn't make sense. Cuz after a decade of hobbying I'm still figuring things out
Letโ€™s simplify thisโ€ฆ

Holistic = full service typically with clock watchers with occasional, but not normal exceptions (if you find the exception enjoy the hell out of it)

Semi-Holistic = later in life ladies who donโ€™t want to identify as sex workers so they stay within some weird boundaries while slippinโ€™ and slidinโ€™

Semi-Legit = typically later in life massage oriented ladies who are not expected to anything extreme but many do
 
If it's holistic, full nudity is guaranteed. And from there you can negotiate bodyslides, DATY, Greek or Russian finish, etc

Semi legit, only HJ is guaranteed, and if lucky you may get some tits and pussy play. Then again within semi legit places you may have both restrictive and liberal chicks. At two particular semi legit places, without divulging name of location or chick, I managed to get a BBBJ CIM. Good luck. Sorry if this doesn't make sense. Cuz after a decade of hobbying I'm still figuring things out
Hahaha

Didn't you state in one thread you only go to 2 semi legit spas, well known spas

Kinda just gave it away
 
Letโ€™s simplify thisโ€ฆ

Holistic = full service typically with clock watchers with occasional, but not normal exceptions (if you find the exception enjoy the hell out of it)

Semi-Holistic = later in life ladies who donโ€™t want to identify as sex workers so they stay within some weird boundaries while slippinโ€™ and slidinโ€™

Semi-Legit = typically later in life massage oriented ladies who are not expected to anything extreme but many do
There are a lot of โ€œlatter in life ladiesโ€ flying under the radar, but there are also some young ladies who also who do not want to admit that they are actually in the sex trade as do the white knights that $ervicecthem?
 
Letโ€™s simplify thisโ€ฆ

Holistic = full service typically with clock watchers with occasional, but not normal exceptions (if you find the exception enjoy the hell out of it)

Semi-Holistic = later in life ladies who donโ€™t want to identify as sex workers so they stay within some weird boundaries while slippinโ€™ and slidinโ€™

Semi-Legit = typically later in life massage oriented ladies who are not expected to anything extreme but many do
Disagree. :no

Many young gals ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿ‘งโ€๐Ÿ‘ง get into semi-legit biz f/ non-SW backgroundโ€ฆ. Right now, Bellagio has 2 young girls, Lena & Marilyn, just learning the trade, & generally just do hjs without nudity. Roll the clock backโ€ฆ 2017โ€ฆ & Lucy herself = legit msg girl trying out semilegit โ€ฆ

Many holistic spas got some pretty old gals working there 2โ€ฆ ๐Ÿ˜‰

While some mpas age ๐Ÿ‘ต outta holistic into semilegit, thatโ€™s certainly not only career pathโ€ฆ some semilegits = young girls w msg backgroundโ€ฆ or no xxxperience @ allโ€ฆ that think giving a guy an HE = no big dealโ€ฆ in fact, mebbe fun ๐Ÿ˜

โ€ฆ& many semilegit & semiholistic girls reveal full menu w repeat visitsโ€ฆ even gals who came f/ retail & nvr did SW B4โ€ฆ

Im shur Iโ€™m not only guy whoโ€™s watched my dick ๐Ÿ† disappear into the ๐Ÿ‘„ mouth of an apparently inxxperienced mpa โ€ฆ xxxperienced girls no 2 do bbbj :banana b4 u cover the dick in oil! o_O

โ€ฆ ability 2do bjs ofc doesnโ€™t require a special licenseโ€ฆ
 
It's more about the identity of the spa (and not the girls per se), here it is in simple terms. The caveat being that anything can happen behind closed doors whether it's semi-legit, semi-holistic or whatever...

Semi-legit - a spa that still prides itself in giving a good massage but of course happy endings are provided. Usually the bosses are okay with some mileage such as girls taking off parts of their clothes. Some examples are JR, Suko, Lotus, E&M...

Semi-holistic - a spa that still requires their girls to be able to do a decent massage but bosses are a bit more lenient in terms of mileage and services such as BS are okay. Some examples are SL, Acewell, BN, Aqua Bay, Lavender...

Holistic - full service spa, very little focus on the massage
 
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    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Yoga Beauty Lucy, Strong RMT Girl Grace, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ GRACE AND LUCY๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  30. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Take a peek on Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: Jennifer, Coco and Emily will be there to ignite all your desires. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  31. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Friday May 30, 2025, our attendants will be Ada ๏ธ, Carla ๐Ÿ”ฅ, Cici ๐Ÿค—, Opal ๐Ÿ˜ and Vicky ๐Ÿ‘. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  32. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Terrific Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville โœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Tiffany, Joey, Julie, Aaliyah, Cici, Coco, Yui, Meghan, Julia & New 34D Jasmineโ€”โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits
  33. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  34. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot busty Singapore ๐ŸŒน Indian ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนkorean girls๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนworking ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—at markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  35. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white cream skin, pretty face, can bbbj cim dfk 69 cof sf2, available all services, excellent treatment. KITTY is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business.
  36. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (2PM), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (9PM), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  37. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH (2AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  38. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (12PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (2PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  39. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  40. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: :wonderspa: โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful young Jessica sexy body,deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily Q,friendly,amazing massage,happy the end,really popular,must tryโค๏ธ
  41. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธCindy๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธNadia๐ŸŒธAnna Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  43. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKelly๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile.
  47. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Thursday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ, Vicky ๐Ÿฅณ, Sophie ๐Ÿค— and Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  48. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Top notch wellness: Ella , elena, Angela, Michelle, gabby , and Vanna. Call us now to make your appointment. 437-522-9961
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Taiwanese Victoria slime 26โ€™s open mind and young flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open min, young popular kitty 26โ€™s with curve body and pretty Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls working today. Judy and Kiki. They are young and beautiful, cute and sexy. Deep tissue massage and relaxation massage are both great. Back walking is very comfortable. They have sweet smiles and work seriously. If you are tired from work, come and make an appointment!๐Ÿค—
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